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fashionista
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wooow!! that is so similar to my religion, we have to eat fish with scales, and im pretty sure we can only eat hoofed animals i.e dogs, cats, lions, reptiles etc are out of the questions, we can't eat birds of preyeljay080 said:
its weird how similar our religions are.
ok so what is the defining jewish belief that makes it separate from christianity and islam? thats the bit im confused about
fashionista
Tastes like chicken
there's an article about kabbalah in today's good weekend...it seems heaps expensive....what exactly is kabbalah water? where does it come from? and why is it so expensive? and whats the red string for? what does it signify?
yeah, they do, but its not nearly as bad as when they had to in the past. Now days you get it operated on with clean instruments, back then they just got anyold sharp thing and cut it off, making infection highly risky, and people used to put off judasium in ancient times because they didn't want an infected penis.
Now days girls think its better to be circumsized because it means you have been desonsortised to the hea dof your dick rubbing against things, therefore you will come less quickly, but back then they used to stay away from people like that cos what girl would want a dick full of sores?
Now days girls think its better to be circumsized because it means you have been desonsortised to the hea dof your dick rubbing against things, therefore you will come less quickly, but back then they used to stay away from people like that cos what girl would want a dick full of sores?
Atticus.
how do i get out of this
i work in a fish and chip shop that sells fresh fish and this uber religious jewish bloke came in and asked me if i could please make sure that the fish i gave him once had fish and scales... he got really offended beause i laughed.eljay080 said:
but that shit is preety funny. what sort of fish has no fins or scales? even eels have fins! fuck me that little religious rule is worded funny... it should be
all jews can eat any fish, anytime under anycircumstance
funnily enough i live with a bunch of seppo's at campus east in wgong and several of them are jewish, great people. but its funny because every single one of them has been to israel. they are like "tom you should definatly go to israel its so preety"
yes ill go, ill go to see miles of sand and rocks, ill catch a bus to the golan heights and get killed by a palestinian suicide bomber! AWESOME see you there...
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Im German. I love the jews.
God damn jews....
God damn jews....
Atticus.
how do i get out of this
fuck mate! i only think its funny because i have worked with fresh fish for four years and fished for longer and i do not know of any fish without scales or fins... help me out on this one... im not making fun of your entire religion, im laughing at a small aspect. chill dude i dont care if you find my beliefs slightly odd, too each his/her own if you get that.eljay080 said:
have you ever thought that if we all took religion a little less seriously and didnt take offence to religious jokes and religious differences the world would be a better and albeit more peaceful place? think of all the shit going on because of religion.
i myself am agnostic (the curse of the faithless) for the simple reason that i dont like to say "hey im christian or hey im buddhist" because i feel that im contradicting someone elses views by labeling myself and with out a strong enough faith i dont think thats fair...
i admire the good behind all religion but i wont be pigeon holed by any staunch religious zealot... not saying that any of you are
here comes the writing me off for being a fence sitter
To answer a few questions:
Kosher food and fish without scales
Kosher food does not only relate to the foods one can eat, but how it is prepared, etc. Animals have to be slaughtered in a certain way, and only by people who have the right intention and should be someone with a kind disposition to animals and life. No blood may be eaten, and so it is drained, salted and cooked out. Kosher kitchens separate all meat and dairy-use utensils, extending on the law that an animal may not be cooked in its mother's milk. Factories that produce meat products or use animal-based gelatine are therefore problematic.
Onto fish: the scales mus be easily removable. So, for example, swordfish, shark, etc would not be counted here. Possibly, also, the readers of the bible may interpret fish to include things like whales and dolphins which do not have scales either. On the other hand, all other shellfish, etc are also forbidden.
The animals that are generally allowed to be eaten seem to generally be vegetarian themselves; not animals of prey.
As a note, all kosher food is halal (able to be eaten by Muslims), but not the other way (this has been affirmed by a Fatwa, so I'm told).
Kabbalah
Kabbalah is a mystical tradition in Judaism that includes many interesting interpretations of the world. Many would contend that the kabbalah adopted by the likes of Madonna and Britney Spears is false. Not only do they not have the biblical and Jewish law knowledge that is usually considered prerequisite to mystical studies in Judaism, but they do not follow any sort of morals that are the basis of Judaism. The commercialism of Kabbalah is very disliked by many Jews.
Judaism in brief, and other faiths
Many consider Judaism to be a nation with a religious component. Others would consider it to be a religion with a national component. Judaism believes a lot in practice of ethical behaviour and ritual, and not merely in faith and worship. It is said that one does not necessarily have to have the correct intents when doing something prescribed by Jewish law, but better that it be done, and maybe through it one gains the correct intent.
Judaism had a big role to play in Christianity's development, as well as probably in the inspiration for Islam, but they have long diverged. In philosophy and practice, Judaism probably is closer today to Islam, although they have no common historical root. Christianity took a lot from Judaism, but many of its influences came from the West in its adoption within Europe.
Significantly, Judaism's major prophet is Moses, and its history is felt as through the stories of the bible, particularly in the Exodus from Egypt. It does believe that a messiah will come, but the role of this messiah is quite different from what Jesus performed; it does not see Jesus as the messiah.
Judaism, though, claims itself as the first ethical monotheism. That is: belief in one God and as a result one must lead an ethical life (according to the laws of the Torah).
There's plenty more that could be said here and plenty of sites on the web that say it, such as Judaism 101.
Jewish life
Modern Jewish life may mean absolutely nothing extraordinary. Some Jews keep a number of traditions at home; others lead an observant lifestyle. An observant lifestyle involves things like:
I hope that all helps a little... Feel free to ask more!
Kosher food and fish without scales
Kosher food does not only relate to the foods one can eat, but how it is prepared, etc. Animals have to be slaughtered in a certain way, and only by people who have the right intention and should be someone with a kind disposition to animals and life. No blood may be eaten, and so it is drained, salted and cooked out. Kosher kitchens separate all meat and dairy-use utensils, extending on the law that an animal may not be cooked in its mother's milk. Factories that produce meat products or use animal-based gelatine are therefore problematic.
Onto fish: the scales mus be easily removable. So, for example, swordfish, shark, etc would not be counted here. Possibly, also, the readers of the bible may interpret fish to include things like whales and dolphins which do not have scales either. On the other hand, all other shellfish, etc are also forbidden.
The animals that are generally allowed to be eaten seem to generally be vegetarian themselves; not animals of prey.
As a note, all kosher food is halal (able to be eaten by Muslims), but not the other way (this has been affirmed by a Fatwa, so I'm told).
Kabbalah
Kabbalah is a mystical tradition in Judaism that includes many interesting interpretations of the world. Many would contend that the kabbalah adopted by the likes of Madonna and Britney Spears is false. Not only do they not have the biblical and Jewish law knowledge that is usually considered prerequisite to mystical studies in Judaism, but they do not follow any sort of morals that are the basis of Judaism. The commercialism of Kabbalah is very disliked by many Jews.
Judaism in brief, and other faiths
Many consider Judaism to be a nation with a religious component. Others would consider it to be a religion with a national component. Judaism believes a lot in practice of ethical behaviour and ritual, and not merely in faith and worship. It is said that one does not necessarily have to have the correct intents when doing something prescribed by Jewish law, but better that it be done, and maybe through it one gains the correct intent.
Judaism had a big role to play in Christianity's development, as well as probably in the inspiration for Islam, but they have long diverged. In philosophy and practice, Judaism probably is closer today to Islam, although they have no common historical root. Christianity took a lot from Judaism, but many of its influences came from the West in its adoption within Europe.
Significantly, Judaism's major prophet is Moses, and its history is felt as through the stories of the bible, particularly in the Exodus from Egypt. It does believe that a messiah will come, but the role of this messiah is quite different from what Jesus performed; it does not see Jesus as the messiah.
Judaism, though, claims itself as the first ethical monotheism. That is: belief in one God and as a result one must lead an ethical life (according to the laws of the Torah).
There's plenty more that could be said here and plenty of sites on the web that say it, such as Judaism 101.
Jewish life
Modern Jewish life may mean absolutely nothing extraordinary. Some Jews keep a number of traditions at home; others lead an observant lifestyle. An observant lifestyle involves things like:
- eating only kosher food
- not doing any manner of work on Shabbat (Friday sunset to Saturday night) and other festivals
- praying three times a day (preferably at a synagogue and in the company of others)
- saying blessings before and after eating all forms of food
- giving at least 10% (but no more than about 20%) of one's income to charity (even if one is poor)
- etc, etc. as I said, plenty to be read elsewhere
I hope that all helps a little... Feel free to ask more!
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fashionista
Tastes like chicken
that is crazy how similar our religions are...i don't get why jews and muslims keep fighting 
HotShot
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yeah
that rite very similar they fight for poltical reasons, but use religion as an accuse for their reasons.
that rite very similar they fight for poltical reasons, but use religion as an accuse for their reasons.
ihavenothing
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They are required to by god, but if they wish not to they have to draw blood insteadKorn said:
I don't know what you mean here... In order to be Jewish according to Orthodox rabbinic rules, a male must be circumcised, a process which by necessity includes the drawing of blood. If a male is already circumcised when converting to Judaism, blood is nonetheless drawn in order to fulfill the ritual requirements.ihavenothing said:
eljay080 said:
- I'm Jewish
- I practice my Judaism
- I am a leader in a youth movement where I teach about it
ihavenothing
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I can't stand the Jewish groups I used to be involved with they gave me the shits with their piousness "ooh, this isnt kosher!!! nooo!!" and theyre geekiness is just asking for them to get their tel aviv mansions bombed by palestinians
mz_purfect
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wow I never knew that! does this mean Jews can eat Halal food but Muslims cant eat Kosher? Also, where does Moses (pbuh) come into the picture? Is he more than just a prophet?jnothman said:
Cheers.