Macq. City college (1 Viewer)

[krisspy]

i just read the old article about the city campus and i was wondering many things... well it says on the article that

"students who do not qualify for university will buy degrees from the Wynyard campus"

...im a lil slow so bear with me... what do they mean by "buying" a degree? i looked in their brochure and the UAC book for 2008 and the uai cut-off was the same as Macq. Uni.

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[CieL]

Isnt there that two different types..

DFEE and C.... commonwealth supported whatever?

Oh I suck at this.. but I think DFEE pays a shitload more than the other one..

 

[clairegirl]

i don't know

but that would be soo awsome... i wish i could just go in there right now and buy my degree already!

I'm sooo completely over uni!

 

[krisspy]

im so confused DFEE (Domestic fee-paying) makes you pay for the full tuition fee. So say i only manage to scrape a 75 UAI (most likely) i can still get in? even if the DFEE cut off is 81.30 for a BCommerce degree??

 

[AsyLum]

The College is a completely different entity to Macquarie, its like SIBT BUT you can do full degrees there, basically 'buying' it, without so much a thought to quality. Its really pretty awful, since the standards are of a private college, rather than the university marks.

 

[krisspy]

Dang, shouldnt private collages have low UAI's then...you cant technically "buy in" the degree if you dont meet UAI cut offs, which is silly really, since its the same as the University which will give more quality teaching as stated before...unless its easier access for you or for other reasons

Dang it, i want my Macquarie brand diploma!!

 

[dracover]

i read into it cause one of my overseas friends wanted to come to maq and asked about it

from wat it seems the degrees are not the same. its like having a bachelor degree vs a diploma or 2 bachelor degree one in say advanced science one in normal science (probably the first example a little more accurate).

also its being heavily advertised overseas so maybe its a way of improving standards in the main maq uni area by making international students all go somewhere else.

also its shorter time length. and wen u get ur certificate at the end of howeva long it doesnt say maq uni i dont fink. it'll basically say u bought it hahaha.

also onli a selected number of courses are offered and from the looks of things onli low level sorta stuff (e.g. they dont have proper accounting the last time i checked onli some random bookkeeping thing)

 

[dracover]

u sure? the last i checked this is on their site the degree u end up with is slightly different to that of maq uni degrees. even though they say standards are the same blah blah blah the course names and specifics are different (ie. u wont be doing acst101 maybe some equivalent thing like ast102 lol)and u will see on ur transcript (something all employers want) where and what u actually did.

and yes maq uni supplies it wat i mean is on ours it'll say u graduated from maq uni. on their one it'll say something like graduated from ... (wateva the ful name of that place is) so its not like say if u went to different campus at uwsyd u'll get a graduated from uwsyd certificate this will say something else. so its like if maq is going into the business world and opening a different store e.g. coke sells sprite. so it will be easily recognisable and for all job related causes (which is wats most important) employers will be able to tell the difference.

 

[AsyLum]

Drac, its exactly the same, check out page 14, they do ACST101 (or allowed to anyway), basically its run by IBT, but rather than SIBT only going towards a diploma and then entry into MQ, if you had the money, you can do the degree through the college.

Its a leftover from Di's era, not sure how schwartz is seeing this.

 

[dracover]

page 14 of wat? the aritcle? i dont see any lol or do u mean the site. cause ye i know they claim that its exactly the same. cause my friend wanted to do it so i did a lot of digging and basically the final piece of paper u get and some other stuff (i cant rem specifics) will clearly be different. so u go to an employer and show them ur graduation certificate and they will know u didnt do it through the main maq area so the difference is there.

also if u read the bottom of the article it says theres an incredible high fail rate there that leads me to believe they try to keep the standards similar as far as what u need to know to pass. so i wouldnt say if buying a degree more buying an opportunity but then again that happens every day of the week. e.g. pplz pay to be part of special organisations and clubs to get privliges into certain things like the cricket club (i forgot the name) an stuff like that so i dont realli c wats wrong with it.

 

[AsyLum]

Off the brochure on their site.

It will say coming out from the Macquarie City College, but most employers aren't going to look at that, they're going to see the big MACQUARIE LOGO which posts on top of it.

Of course theres a high fail rate, these are people who couldn't get into the normal degrees, but if they have money, then they can get through this way. 31% is fairly high but thats still just under 70% who are passing and on their way to a degree.

MACQUARIE UNIVERSITY will open a city campus that will allow fee-paying students to graduate with its degrees, despite them being taught by a private college that the university knows produces weak students.

Macquarie City College goes further because students will be able to take their whole bachelor degree on the campus and have it conferred by Macquarie University, rather than the institu

http://www.city.mq.edu.au/
and those links at the bottom as well as the brochure indicate they're going to be exactly the same in structure/subjects done.

Buying to be part of a club which has high social value is completely different to buying something which is supposed to be a testament/mark of your skills to an employer. Thats just silly trying to reason like that.

 

[clairegirl]

isn't it like SIBT? ....... where you pay at a private college to get a diploma, except you do the exact same subjects as a normal uni student and then if you meet a certain criteria (pass or credit avg) you are entitled to finish your degree at mq and get a mq degree hence the whole "buying a degree thing".... is really "buying a second chance to prove urself"

 

[AsyLum]

Kinda, but this one actually translates into a degree, rather than entry. (all at the college not at MQ).