maryk said:
man you've got it all wrong. islam does not make rape ok. in fact it is completely opposite. islam forbids rape or any other form of harm towards others. everyone will be judged for his or her own actions and you cannot blame others for something that you did.
id also like to add something a little off track, but when you say u will fight for this country and your proud of being australiand that is exactly how the people in palestine and iraq feel. however when they fight for their country they are recognised as terrorists and extremists yet their love for where they came from is as genuine as the love u have for Australia.
Islam doesn't make rape ok. Islam in it's purest form is one of the most peaceful and accepting relgions in the world. HOWEVER, men have distored the Koran (sorry if it's spelt wrong) to suit their purposes. I don't blame pure Islam, for with most things, it's simply a scapegoat. I blame the people - clerics mainly - who distort it and use to condone a crime as horrible a rape. I have many of friends who are muslim, however they generally come from the eastern states such as the Arab Emirates, Qatar, Oman etc. And they are wonderful people. In general, lebanese muslims treat Australians and generally women as inferior from my experience. Yes, you have exceptions, but generally speaking I stand by my statment.
I love Australia and will fight for it. I wouldn't kill hundreds of civilians in the hopes that Allah will let me into heaven with 70 virgins. You see, I understand to a certain extent why Terrorists do what they do. HOWEVER, killing of innocent people who are guilty of nothing other than existing deserve to be punished. Because you see what they are doing? That is racism. That is saying I'm going to make a point, and the lives of Hundreds of you filthy infidels is worth much less than our lives. Don't you dare attribute my love for Australia and desire to protect her with notions of terroism, because that is what it is sunshine.
Kulazzi I'm too lazy to quote mate.
I realise it is a generalisation,but from what I've experienced, Lebanese muslims treat anyone of another race or religion as inferior. They feel they can do what they want when they want and not be held accountable. It undoubtly is the vocals within the group that paint this picture, but unfortunatly they are very vocal, and it's the cunts we remeber.. I've certainly met exceptions to that, but they have been few and far between.
And yes, the harrasment goes both ways no doubt. Were I grew up, Australians were the minority and as such, we coped the brunt of abuse. It's only gotten worse since I left Sydney. But I see were your coming from too, I'd be lying if I said it was a one way street, Australians do give it too, no doubt. I did, I was just silenced with cries of 'Racist' and my schools, of course. My earliest incidence of this, was when I would have been perhap 8 or so, in primary school. One of the lebanese girls called me a 'dumb australian', I was a bit taken back, as it pretty much came out of nowhere, and I made some comment about her being a stupid lebanese. I got into trouble, she didn't. It's grown from there. My friend in high school would be called a slut in arabic (everyone knows how to swear in arabic), they'd say they'd rape her, and such. They were swearing at her in class one day in arabic, she turned around and told them to shove it up their arses and she got suspended, nothing happened to them. Consantly get the 'stupid skips' thats all we were, no matter what they called us, or what they did, we could not retaliate because we were Australian and very few teachers would stick up for us, out of fear of being labled racist themselves. So, I've pretty much grown up with the constant hatred, and I've gotten to a point where I've had enough.
Maryk I'm trying to recall instances when religion has been emphasised. Apart from the Beverly Hills rapes, which it was made an issue because of the nature of the crime (
You deserve it because you're Australian?) and because it was sensationalised news. Any other rape, or crime it's been of middle eastern apperance. Just as they're say of Islander apperance, or causasian apperance, for indentification and crime stoppers. Perhaps you're mixing up 'Middle Eastern' with 'Muslim'?
