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N.O or Creatine? (1 Viewer)
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Wasn't his ridiculous arms due to an infection from a used needle which made his arms explode? i remember there was a video of that circulating.Pace_T said:
anyway i just got a tub of creatine and somatomax delivered to my fucking door om nom nom nom nomnomnom
NinjaSauce
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NO.
The guy may, and probably did, take steroids. But that is NOT the cause of his arms.
In all documentories, short films, or interviews he goes into, he claims steroids did it. It is a recurring theme of him to deny his stupidity and blame it on steroids.
There is an article out there on him called: "The Most hated man in bodybuilding". (Edit: Actually, here it is: http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=211hate )
he used: SYTHNOL. Basically took an oil substance, and injected it directly in his biceps, triceps, etc and artifically expanded his arms.
There is actually a documentory coming out the end of this month about Steroids in America, and he is in it. Though, again, he fails to mention it was not steroids that did this to him - thats pissed a lot of people off.
The guy may, and probably did, take steroids. But that is NOT the cause of his arms.
In all documentories, short films, or interviews he goes into, he claims steroids did it. It is a recurring theme of him to deny his stupidity and blame it on steroids.
There is an article out there on him called: "The Most hated man in bodybuilding". (Edit: Actually, here it is: http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=211hate )
he used: SYTHNOL. Basically took an oil substance, and injected it directly in his biceps, triceps, etc and artifically expanded his arms.
There is actually a documentory coming out the end of this month about Steroids in America, and he is in it. Though, again, he fails to mention it was not steroids that did this to him - thats pissed a lot of people off.
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N.O products are completely worthless.
They do literary nothing to increase muscle mass. Get creatine (should be a staple supplement in anyones diet), along with a substance known as beta-alanine - which is considered to be the "new creatine" of bodybuilding. What they mean by that is, since creatine, there has never been such an effective product at increasining LBM, whilst being safe. It parallels creatine in efficiency and should be a staple of anyones supplement stash. Citrulline malate is another product which is just as good and will be big in the near future, although id choose beta-alanine over it if i was on a budget.
My pre and post supplement routine: protein in a 50/50 ratio (50% whey, 50% micellar casein), 1 cup oats (traditional, not quick - traditional yield a lower gi), creatine, beta-alanine and citrulline malate.
Do NOT purchase products such as kre alkalyn or even CEE, they are bogus. Stick to creatine monohydrate. Buy it in bulk. Not only is it the cheapest, its the most effective. If you want to spend a little on your creatine product, i suggest Gaspari Nutrition Size-on. its a little more than just a creatine product, but its generally regarded as one of, if not, the best creatine products on the market. I use it and its quality stuff
Things ive mentioned, beta-alanine, citrulline malate etc are best bought from the states. Bodybuilding.com is the best to buy supplement products (except protein, which is not allowed to be imported into australia). I recommend Primaforce for there bulk products. Cant go wrong.
If anyone else wants to be pointed in the right direction in regards to supplements or routines, shoot me a msg. If your training one body part a day, your training terribly wrong and in the most ineffective way possible
They do literary nothing to increase muscle mass. Get creatine (should be a staple supplement in anyones diet), along with a substance known as beta-alanine - which is considered to be the "new creatine" of bodybuilding. What they mean by that is, since creatine, there has never been such an effective product at increasining LBM, whilst being safe. It parallels creatine in efficiency and should be a staple of anyones supplement stash. Citrulline malate is another product which is just as good and will be big in the near future, although id choose beta-alanine over it if i was on a budget.
My pre and post supplement routine: protein in a 50/50 ratio (50% whey, 50% micellar casein), 1 cup oats (traditional, not quick - traditional yield a lower gi), creatine, beta-alanine and citrulline malate.
Do NOT purchase products such as kre alkalyn or even CEE, they are bogus. Stick to creatine monohydrate. Buy it in bulk. Not only is it the cheapest, its the most effective. If you want to spend a little on your creatine product, i suggest Gaspari Nutrition Size-on. its a little more than just a creatine product, but its generally regarded as one of, if not, the best creatine products on the market. I use it and its quality stuff
Things ive mentioned, beta-alanine, citrulline malate etc are best bought from the states. Bodybuilding.com is the best to buy supplement products (except protein, which is not allowed to be imported into australia). I recommend Primaforce for there bulk products. Cant go wrong.
If anyone else wants to be pointed in the right direction in regards to supplements or routines, shoot me a msg. If your training one body part a day, your training terribly wrong and in the most ineffective way possible
Creatine doesn't make the muscle itself bigger, it draws more water into the cell (or something, someone halp).
Edit: Should add, from what I've read in the past creatine seems to help most with fatigue.. allowing you to keep the intensity up instead of fading out by the end of the workout. Have never taken it as a supplement myself, so if I'm way off feel free to correct me.
Edit: Should add, from what I've read in the past creatine seems to help most with fatigue.. allowing you to keep the intensity up instead of fading out by the end of the workout. Have never taken it as a supplement myself, so if I'm way off feel free to correct me.
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increases water retention.
last time i researched this was about 5 years ago so someone correct me if im wrong.
muscle is basically water, so in fact it DOES increase muscle size/strength etc. its basically as legit as it could get, except that when you go off creatine, that extra water retention ability is lost and muscles will deflate.
so why is it supposedly good? makes you lift more = more muscle tear = more recovery = more muscle. improves endurance as well so you wont fatigue in a set-intense 1 hr of working out. (spending less time recovering from each set, so you can do more sets).
some people respond to creatine really well with kgs of weight gain (water) in the first week. others dont see anything happen at all.
i dont use any, but if you were going to get it, get creatine monohydrate, its really effective and cheap as. some come with some sort of dextrose(???) thing in it and makes it absorb heaps quick.
ninjasauce correct me plz
last time i researched this was about 5 years ago so someone correct me if im wrong.
muscle is basically water, so in fact it DOES increase muscle size/strength etc. its basically as legit as it could get, except that when you go off creatine, that extra water retention ability is lost and muscles will deflate.
so why is it supposedly good? makes you lift more = more muscle tear = more recovery = more muscle. improves endurance as well so you wont fatigue in a set-intense 1 hr of working out. (spending less time recovering from each set, so you can do more sets).
some people respond to creatine really well with kgs of weight gain (water) in the first week. others dont see anything happen at all.
i dont use any, but if you were going to get it, get creatine monohydrate, its really effective and cheap as. some come with some sort of dextrose(???) thing in it and makes it absorb heaps quick.
ninjasauce correct me plz
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Are you fucking kidding me?stazi said:actually may as well post it in here - doubt there's any federal agents on this forum
I got twelve capsules for $40 (which is decent, as you're meant to use 3 capsules/week), so it's not too expensive for really quick muscular gains.
Go to: SYDNEY CBD - PITT STREET
SHOP G2B
175 Pitt Street (Cnr King St)
SYDNEY NSW 2000
Tel: 02 9230 0855
I'm not sure if the other stores are doing it, but that's the one that I heard sells steroids.
You have to ask (and feel free to preempt it with a story like "A mate of mine told me that I can come here for this.."). But basically, the code is (word for word): "Show me your back door". They'll then take you into the back staff room where they have some of that stuff.
Also, very important, if they ask for ID, don't show it to them.They have no right to do that, but a mate of mine got asked for his, because they thought he looked 'dodgy' and was trying to fuck them over. Chances are they won't ask for it though
Usually I can smell trolling from a mile away, but fuck.
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Because your 60kgs and using steroids if your not a monster with a massive diet and heavy lifts is incredibly dumb.
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