From sanchez#1
Ancient Sparta
Spartan government was a number of systems that acted in a ?harmonious whole? ? Cartledge
?Spartan government was arranged in a hierarchy? ? Welch
The Gerousia acted as a ?kind of ballast? ? Plutarch
The Ephors were a ?pragmatic device to ensure the monarchy?s perpetuation? ? Cartledge
?The different elements acted as checks and balances to each other? ? Cartledge
?The boys learned to read and write no more than was necessary? ? Plutarch
Boys were able to ?accommodate themselves more readily to anything put before them? ? Xenophon
Xenophon is a ?pro-spartan Athenian exile? ? Cartledge
At the temple of Artemis Orthia Plutarch ?witnessed many of them dying under the lashes?[/QUOTE]
On sparta (women)
Asquithian-
Spartan women had lotsa time to them sleves becasue of the servitude of helots around their house.
Unlike the res of greece they were active in Spartaqn society. They did not riase their own children this was done helot maids...Therefore they had much time. Many Spartan women aspired to be like helen form homers illiad... who was famous for her beauty education and outspokeness. The spartans belied she was a god , and in line with spartan religious practice, they believed that gods or semi gods such as Helen could help then in their daily lives. According to Herodotus 6.61 a a lady was nursing a child spartan girl who was from a rich family but was really ugly so she took her to the Shrine of helen at Phobus. Were she met helen and then the baby became beautiful or something. According to Parker the relationship with the gods in sparta was based on mutual respect. That the gods would help then in any ligitimate venture.
Young femaleswere encouraged to be physically fit in order to be able to give birth to healthy new spartan warriors.They participated in running and athletics and often excercised naken and would laugh at boys who were underdeveloped or skinniny.
The poet Alcman composed poems of that praise Young spartan women of their natural beauty. He calles them Parthaneai songs to be. Then can been seen in Alman fragment 12. This shows a frank appreciation of the beauty of spartan girls.
Adult female spartan women would advise their husdbands, supervise the helots and often conduct general household financies as the men were often away...Women came to own around 40% of Spatan real estate due to spartan inheritecne laws.
Women banquated...participapted in hourse racing and according to herodotus when were asked a quesation...they gave their repsonce very loudly and in public.
Women also were their to mock men if they did something wrong to encourage them to do better. However they would be their to congradualte on success.
Women were often only seen as something that gave birth...they were subject to bride by capture..were they were kidnapped at night...had their head shaved...they were also dressed in boys cloths
On government
Sparta is a DAM
Democracy (Apella...V Erenburg or assesbly)
Autocracy (Gourusia or filled with gerontes)
Monarchy( the kings the agidae and euripontidae)
The kings were part of the Gurosia and hecne could influecne policy in their own way. 28 members in the G including the two kings (Euripontidae and AgIdae)
The king has special rights...that is outlined i herodotus 6.65 ie has to reciveve double portion at dinner...the hides of the animals at sacrefices...he must sit first etc
The gourosia proposed legsiation and the apella voted on it...the spartans summerised their attitude to law what they called 'nomos'
Ephores also made up spartan government. There were 5 of them elected annually for the appella. Famous one was chilon from the mid 6th century...
they direcected public policy. protected the kings ie like magistartes....According the Xenophone Spartan sociey 8 Ephores were very helpful and always 'ran insetad of walked to help.'
The system was based on respect...the gourosia had the greatest right of veto.
on kleroi
each individidual spartiate citizen, at birth, was given a plot of land 'klaros' and helots to work it. This land could not be sold as it was governent land and with 'public slaves' according to cartlege. If the perosn who owned the Klaros died it was passed down the family hierarchy. If there were no men it went to the spartan woman (even though women where not citizens and could not vote in the appella...they came to own around 40% of property by the end of the 5ht cenutry)
Helots worked this kleros and had to give an alotted amoun to their spartiate master...if there master took to much they were liable to be cursed in public.
Ancient Sparta
Spartan government was a number of systems that acted in a ?harmonious whole? ? Cartledge
?Spartan government was arranged in a hierarchy? ? Welch
The Gerousia acted as a ?kind of ballast? ? Plutarch
The Ephors were a ?pragmatic device to ensure the monarchy?s perpetuation? ? Cartledge
?The different elements acted as checks and balances to each other? ? Cartledge
?The boys learned to read and write no more than was necessary? ? Plutarch
Boys were able to ?accommodate themselves more readily to anything put before them? ? Xenophon
Xenophon is a ?pro-spartan Athenian exile? ? Cartledge
At the temple of Artemis Orthia Plutarch ?witnessed many of them dying under the lashes?[/QUOTE]
On sparta (women)
Asquithian-
Spartan women had lotsa time to them sleves becasue of the servitude of helots around their house.
Unlike the res of greece they were active in Spartaqn society. They did not riase their own children this was done helot maids...Therefore they had much time. Many Spartan women aspired to be like helen form homers illiad... who was famous for her beauty education and outspokeness. The spartans belied she was a god , and in line with spartan religious practice, they believed that gods or semi gods such as Helen could help then in their daily lives. According to Herodotus 6.61 a a lady was nursing a child spartan girl who was from a rich family but was really ugly so she took her to the Shrine of helen at Phobus. Were she met helen and then the baby became beautiful or something. According to Parker the relationship with the gods in sparta was based on mutual respect. That the gods would help then in any ligitimate venture.
Young femaleswere encouraged to be physically fit in order to be able to give birth to healthy new spartan warriors.They participated in running and athletics and often excercised naken and would laugh at boys who were underdeveloped or skinniny.
The poet Alcman composed poems of that praise Young spartan women of their natural beauty. He calles them Parthaneai songs to be. Then can been seen in Alman fragment 12. This shows a frank appreciation of the beauty of spartan girls.
Adult female spartan women would advise their husdbands, supervise the helots and often conduct general household financies as the men were often away...Women came to own around 40% of Spatan real estate due to spartan inheritecne laws.
Women banquated...participapted in hourse racing and according to herodotus when were asked a quesation...they gave their repsonce very loudly and in public.
Women also were their to mock men if they did something wrong to encourage them to do better. However they would be their to congradualte on success.
Women were often only seen as something that gave birth...they were subject to bride by capture..were they were kidnapped at night...had their head shaved...they were also dressed in boys cloths
On government
Sparta is a DAM
Democracy (Apella...V Erenburg or assesbly)
Autocracy (Gourusia or filled with gerontes)
Monarchy( the kings the agidae and euripontidae)
The kings were part of the Gurosia and hecne could influecne policy in their own way. 28 members in the G including the two kings (Euripontidae and AgIdae)
The king has special rights...that is outlined i herodotus 6.65 ie has to reciveve double portion at dinner...the hides of the animals at sacrefices...he must sit first etc
The gourosia proposed legsiation and the apella voted on it...the spartans summerised their attitude to law what they called 'nomos'
Ephores also made up spartan government. There were 5 of them elected annually for the appella. Famous one was chilon from the mid 6th century...
they direcected public policy. protected the kings ie like magistartes....According the Xenophone Spartan sociey 8 Ephores were very helpful and always 'ran insetad of walked to help.'
The system was based on respect...the gourosia had the greatest right of veto.
on kleroi
each individidual spartiate citizen, at birth, was given a plot of land 'klaros' and helots to work it. This land could not be sold as it was governent land and with 'public slaves' according to cartlege. If the perosn who owned the Klaros died it was passed down the family hierarchy. If there were no men it went to the spartan woman (even though women where not citizens and could not vote in the appella...they came to own around 40% of property by the end of the 5ht cenutry)
Helots worked this kleros and had to give an alotted amoun to their spartiate master...if there master took to much they were liable to be cursed in public.
