black_man said:thats really interesting, that really does sound like a beat poet sort of philosophy
back on the topic of titles though, has anyone found a title for their whole MW yet?
absorbant? how about 'toilet tissue'.... back to the question of titles for the whole MW, i do have a title that i decided on a few days ago, however as my work is divided into three groups each group has their own title, and each poem has its own title too... so there is a LOT of titles.physician said:lol.. i havn't even thought about my MW title....
I'll leave all my titles till after my major work is complete...
hmmm... i need something interesting... something new, unique something abosrbant... something that will inspire something that will give u the urge to go out and struggle to achieve in what u believe....
hmmm... toliet tissue is and intersting suggestiong.. but it's too typical....cruel intellect said:absorbant? how about 'toilet tissue'.... back to the question of titles for the whole MW, i do have a title that i decided on a few days ago, however as my work is divided into three groups each group has their own title, and each poem has its own title too... so there is a LOT of titles.
peace...NM
Toilet tissue: too typical? typical of what?.. something that is absorbant? How about 'Sponge', 'Mop', 'Chux wipe' or 'Dunny paper'?physician said:hmmm... toliet tissue is and intersting suggestiong.. but it's too typical....
nice title.... as we are in the mood of sharing titles my overall title is 'The Set List:'black_man said:i've been lucky enough to have kept the same title throughout the entire major work process (it's in my signature):
earthquakes guitars good vibrations
(there should be spaces there, otherwise it makes no sense...)
cruel intellect said:nice title.... as we are in the mood of sharing titles my overall title is 'The Set List:'
but the sections are 'Our mutilation is to gain from the system', 'the pen: my weapon of choice' and 'we'll float away without a sound' {section 1 is a line from 'The sky is a landfill' J.Buckley, and section 3 is from 'a song called everything' Powderfinger}
peace
hey i never thought of the Incubus connection... however seeing as my friend is a HUGE incubus fan and is forever shoving an earphone my way to listen to the boys in our frees then it is no surprise that i unconsciously retained that pen: pistol: weapon connection.black_man said:that really has a musical feel to it aswell.....'the set list'....does the middle title have any relation to 'pistola' from incubus? ...it's a fountain of youth, and a patriots weapon of choice...my pen is a pistola ?
just thoughts really
I refuse to support or discourage you in what you choose to do with your major work. But I'd like to point out that your idea could pose a multitude of problems, for a number of reasons.cruel intellect said:nice title.... as we are in the mood of sharing titles my overall title is 'The Set List:'
but the sections are 'Our mutilation is to gain from the system', 'the pen: my weapon of choice' and 'we'll float away without a sound' {section 1 is a line from 'The sky is a landfill' J.Buckley, and section 3 is from 'a song called everything' Powderfinger}
peace
Relax... I am fully aware that what I am doing requires referencing. but I’d like to point out that these lines are only the titles of my sub-sections, the use of a lyric is intentional and relates to one of my key aims {that of blurring the distinctions between song and performance poetry, and between lyric and poem}. Also the lines help give meaning to the poems in each sub-section, those lines are just a general title for the sub section, something that links not only to the aforementioned aim, but to my research, inspiration and initial concepts.whiterabbit said:I refuse to support or discourage you in what you choose to do with your major work. But I'd like to point out that your idea could pose a multitude of problems, for a number of reasons.
Firstly, if you're going to create your own suite of poems, why would you make them appear as an extension of someone else's 'poems' (the distinction between lyrics and poetry can be extremely fudgey)? It not only destroys the originality of the theme/idea, it takes away from your artistic merit.
Secondly, if you're going to allude to something, you'll have to explain yourself thoroughly in the Reflection Statement. 1500 words maximum might seem like a lot, but once you've explained your choice of medium, topic, inspiration, style of writing, techniques, experimental successes and failures, purpose, audience, links to the Advanced or Extension courses, taking out another few paragraphs to explain your sub-titles could be very costly.
Most importantly, if you don't acknowledge the contribution of others to your work along with an explanation, you're risking your entire major work failing on the grounds of plagiarism. And with popular artists like Jeff Buckley and Powderfinger, it's really quite likely.
You should probably talk over the poem/lyric thing with your teacher. It's dangerous. All sorts of complications come in, when your teacher and the marker has to check you up on work that you've done in subjects like music and drama in your Prelim and HSC yearscruel intellect said:one of my key aims {that of blurring the distinctions between song and performance poetry, and between lyric and poem}. Also the lines help give meaning to the poems in each sub-section, those lines are just a general title for the sub section.
I know it's not difficult, it's just costly. The actual referencing will take up nothing. About 10 words. It's the explanation of it's importance, context and meaning which will chew up your word count. If you don't do enough, then you're up for plagiarism, as well as losing marks for originality. I had to waste about 200 words explaining an allusion to a line by Dostoevsky, and my teacher was deadset against it. To her, it was worth cutting the entire four poems out just so i wouldn't have wasted so much space in my Reflection. I'm advising you to reconsider because wish I had taken her advice.cruel intellect said:Explaining the significance of each title is not that difficult, I am aware of just how much stuff I need to be compacted into my RS, and there is a wonderful invention called the footnote and bibliography which allows us to acknowledge things such as these lines turned sub-section titles which you slander.
the poems are not lyrics, its the music aspect of the performance and use of the voice {not singing} that im more concerned with. my poems are nothing like a song lyric, unless of course your talking about some more obscure Velvet Underground lyrics which are more like poetry anyway.whiterabbit said:You should probably talk over the poem/lyric thing with your teacher. It's dangerous. All sorts of complications come in, when your teacher and the marker has to check you up on work that you've done in subjects like music and drama in your Prelim and HSC years
I never said that you lacked artistic merit due to your choice of title, but i was just suggesting that the marker might think so. Alluding to a line is one thing, but to base your title around someone else's work IS a little bit suss and does imply that the writer is leeching off someone else's ideas. Imagine if you were the marker.