Poor people had better access to medical treatment on a free market (1 Viewer)

[evatt]

in my country, you don't pay bills, bills pay you

 

[mirakon]

No, on a free market health care would be far, far cheaper and of better quality




America does not have a free market health care system

if you're not to read anything that's already been posted in a thread then don't bother replying

Far cheaper, are you joking? The very essence of a free market is competitiveness and higher prices. Otherwise there would be no incentive. Furthermore, i never stated America had a free market heaqlth care system, I was saying this in regards to the hypothetical free market you proposed.

 

[SylviaB]

Far cheaper, are you joking? The very essence of a free market is competitiveness and higher prices.

oh shit lol i forgot you were a troll

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

The very essence of a free market is competitiveness and higher prices.

Yep, that's how competition works. You compete for customers by being MORE EXPENSIVE.

 

[evatt]

Yep, that's how competition works. You compete for customers by being MORE EXPENSIVE.

and it is impossible for competition to take the form of deliberate corporate price gouging?

 

[Optimus Prime]

price fixing is still illegal in a free market

 

[evatt]

price fixing is still illegal in a free market

irrespective of whether it is illegal or not, it has been historically prevalent in all markets

 

[SylviaB]

the only way price fixing can occur if there are sufficient barriers to entry to prevent new competition from arising

 

[PH011]

the only way price fixing can occur if there are sufficient barriers to entry to prevent new competition from arising

And these barriers most certainly exist in healthcare. It obviously is not and will never be in perfect competition. Chemotherapy, brain surgery, new hospitals... Have very very high barriers to entry if you want to offer that service

 

[SylviaB]

And these barriers most certainly exist in healthcare.

...because of the state

 

[PH011]

The reason why it is harder and more expensive to offer brain surgery as opposed to offering something like general GP services isn't just because of the state...The barriers are partly because of the state, and partly due to the nature of it.

 

[mirakon]

Yep, that's how competition works. You compete for customers by being MORE EXPENSIVE.

No, but as healthcare is an essential service, private healthcare providers are guaranteed clients, regardless of the price they set. This opens up the possibility of exploitation of customers. You steadily increase their premium over hte years. A true free market system that you propose would mean that private healthcare prices can be increased without any loss of customers.

 

[moll.]

No, but as healthcare is an essential service, private healthcare providers are guaranteed clients, regardless of the price they set. This opens up the possibility of exploitation of customers. You steadily increase their premium over hte years. A true free market system that you propose would mean that private healthcare prices can be increased without any loss of customers.

You evidentally know nothing about economics. Please stop talking.

 

[PH011]

No, but as healthcare is an essential service, private healthcare providers are guaranteed clients, regardless of the price they set. This opens up the possibility of exploitation of customers. You steadily increase their premium over hte years. A true free market system that you propose would mean that private healthcare prices can be increased without any loss of customers.

What?
If you own a car, fuel is essential. If the place you buy it from increases prices, you buy your fuel elsewhere.

In a true free market, this is the case, so if healthcare prices increase, you go somewhere else. Unless they try some price fixing......

 

[mirakon]

Unless they try some price fixing......

Exactly, and this is inevitable. It's a known fact that this will happen in a free market system.

 

[SylviaB]

The reason why it is harder and more expensive to offer brain surgery as opposed to offering something like general GP services isn't just because of the state...The barriers are partly because of the state, and partly due to the nature of it.

yeah, it's always going to be extremely hard to become a brain surgeon, but less difficult without a state.

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

No, but as healthcare is an essential service, private healthcare providers are guaranteed clients, regardless of the price they set. This opens up the possibility of exploitation of customers. You steadily increase their premium over hte years. A true free market system that you propose would mean that private healthcare prices can be increased without any loss of customers.

This guy doesn't seem like a troll, I guess its the name and the pic, it seems like its actually some stupid azn.

Anyway, added to ignore list.

 

[Kim Il-Sung]

yeah asians dont know anything about economics