Poor subject in yr11 to drop (1 Viewer)

[kyp]

If you do poorly in a subject in yr11, but you drop this subject in yr12, because you only need 10u out of 12u, will that poor marks affect your overall ATAR?

 

[jimmysmith560]

No, dropping a subject, whether in year 11 or in year 12, means that the subject will no longer have any effect on your HSC results or your ATAR, regardless of whether your performance in the subject was favourable.

Essentially, for a subject to count as part of your HSC results and towards your ATAR, you need to complete both the year 11 course of the subject, which allows you to progress to the year 12 course, the culmination of which is the HSC exam of the subject, which you must also complete in order to finish the subject and have it count. The results that you achieve in the year 11 course of a subject (also called a Preliminary course) do not contribute towards your HSC results or your ATAR.

I hope this helps!

 

[kyp]

No, dropping a subject, whether in year 11 or in year 12, means that the subject will no longer have any effect on your HSC results or your ATAR, regardless of whether your performance in the subject was favourable.

Essentially, for a subject to count as part of your HSC results and towards your ATAR, you need to complete both the year 11 course of the subject, which allows you to progress to the year 12 course, the culmination of which is the HSC exam of the subject, which you must also complete in order to finish the subject and have it count.

I hope this helps!

Thank you for your reply.

Does anyoneknow if yr11 student can do both extension 1&2 math, or it depends on individual school?

Planning to take 4u math, 2u English, 2u physics and 2u chemistry in yr12.

Not sure if school can offer math extension 2 in yr11.

If not, that means yr11 student need to choose a few more other subjects, to make up 12 units.

 

[kyp]

only can do if it's accelerated i think, bc 4u is for y12 generally

So if school doesn’t offer accelerate, will you still be able to do extension math 1&2 in yr12?

 

[Average Boreduser]

So if school doesn’t offer accelerate, you can only do advanced math in yr12?
then can you still do extension math 1&2 in yr12?

Means you also have to do 3U math

 

[kyp]

* counts for 2 units instead of 1 if you take extension 2 and then you don't do advanced

Thought extension 2 math should overlap extension 1 math just in more depth. Are there many ppl just do ext2 instead of both ext1&2？

 

[kyp]

no if a school doesn't offer acceleration you can only do extension 2 in year 12 and advanced/extension are in y11 + 12

If school doesn’t offer acceleration, can you still do 4u math?

 

[mmmmmmmmaaaaaaa]

If school doesn’t offer acceleration, can you still do 4u math?

Yes just not in year 11 as you are asking. You will need to do it in year 12 like everyone else

 

[monkeyseemonkeydo]

Thought extension 2 math should overlap extension 1 math just in more depth. Are there many ppl just do ext2 instead of both ext1&2？

That is only available if the student accelerated Maths Advanced and Extension 1 in Year 11. Otherwise, Extension 2 must be studied in conjunction with Extension 1 with both courses completed with official assessments and HSC examinations (as well as Advanced content being taught).

If school doesn’t offer acceleration, can you still do 4u math?

If your school does not offer acceleration, then most likely you will be able to do Extension 2 Mathematics, though the chances may slightly depend on what school you go to. If you attend a higher-ranked school (especially private or selective), there is a higher chance they will have the resources and the teachers and the capacity to teach Extension 2, whereas in very low-ranked comprehensive public schools, the chances are lower as sometimes they do not. However, you will be able to do Extension 2 Mathematics, almost certainly, if your teachers believe you are up for it based on your Year 11 Advanced and Extension 1 marks.

Don't worry too much if your school does not offer acceleration. Plenty of the higher-tier selective schools (Ruse, Baulko, etc) do not accelerate higher levels of Mathematics, and the ones that do mostly only accelerate Advanced.

 

[jimmysmith560]

Thought extension 2 math should overlap extension 1 math just in more depth. Are there many ppl just do ext2 instead of both ext1&2？

Where acceleration is not an option, the rule is that Mathematics Extension 1 is a co-requisite of Mathematics Extension 2. This means that, if you wish to take Mathematics Extension 2, you must also be taking Mathematics Extension 1 alongside it. The conventional path to taking Mathematics Extension 2 in year 12 is as follows:

• Year 11: Mathematics Advanced and Mathematics Extension 1, where Mathematics Advanced counts as 2 units and Mathematics Extension 1 counts as 1 unit, resulting in a total of 3 units.
• Year 12: Mathematics Extension 1 and Mathematics Extension 2, where Mathematics Extension 1 counts as 2 units and Mathematics Extension 2 counts as 2 units, resulting in a total of 4 units.

There are topics that are studied in Mathematics Extension 2 which are beyond the scope of Mathematics Extension 1, an example of which is complex numbers.

If school doesn’t offer acceleration, can you still do 4u math?

Yes, just as mmmmmmmmaaaaaaa and monkeyseemonkeydo explained above. This is because acceleration does not affect whether you can take Mathematics Extension 2 to begin with. Instead, acceleration is concerned with the academic year during which you can take the subject (and other levels of maths for that matter). Whether you can accelerate depends on whether your school offers acceleration.

 

[nathanzhou1234]

If school doesn’t offer acceleration, can you still do 4u math?

Yes - provided that you also do the Year 12 3u course in Y11 or Y12

 

[kyp]

Where acceleration is not an option, the rule is that Mathematics Extension 1 is a co-requisite of Mathematics Extension 2. This means that, if you wish to take Mathematics Extension 2, you must also be taking Mathematics Extension 1 alongside it. The conventional path to taking Mathematics Extension 2 in year 12 is as follows:

• Year 11: Mathematics Advanced and Mathematics Extension 1, where Mathematics Advanced counts as 2 units and Mathematics Extension 1 counts as 1 unit, resulting in a total of 3 units.
• Year 12: Mathematics Extension 1 and Mathematics Extension 2, where Mathematics Extension 1 counts as 2 units and Mathematics Extension 2 counts as 2 units, resulting in a total of 4 units.

There are topics that are studied in Mathematics Extension 2 which are beyond the scope of Mathematics Extension 1, an example of which is complex numbers.



Yes, just as mmmmmmmmaaaaaaa and monkeyseemonkeydo explained above. This is because acceleration does not affect whether you can take Mathematics Extension 2 to begin with. Instead, acceleration is concerned with the academic year during which you can take the subject (and other levels of maths for that matter). Whether you can accelerate depends on whether your school offers acceleration.

Thank you so much for explaining it so well!!