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Prerequisites for DipEd...? (1 Viewer)

cazgirl123

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Hi everyone,

I'm starting a B Arts/ B Art Theory at UNSW next year - trying to cover a broad range of areas because I'm not entirely sure what I want to do with myself yet, or atleast whether or not what I want to do is acheivable.
I've been thinking about then doing a Diploma of Education after my 4 years, so that way I'll also have teaching as an option.

I've been doing my research and I keep coming up against this:

"Prerequisites for admission: undergraduate (and appropriate postgraduate) studies must include study in a designated area related to a school subject."

I was planning to major in Development Studies or something along those lines to help me with employment in an organisation such as UNICEF.
Is there some way to be elligible for a DipEd/teaching career without majoring in an area related to a school subject in my Arts degree? Are there any bridging courses or other alternative pathways?

Also, can a teacher only specialise in a maximum of two subject areas?

Any information that anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated, I just can't seem to find all the answers myself.

Thanks!
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I am assuming that you are interested in secondary teaching?

You will need a major at tertiary level in some subject that is taught at school. Otherwise, you may need to so a graduate diploma or coursework masters in that area to show that you have the requisite background knowledge.

As for having more than two specializations, the important thing is just meeting the requirements to get the education qualification in the first place. Once you are formally registered as a teacher, nobody checks on whether you are teaching out of subject area or not, so as long as you can convince your employer that you are capable, it is not an issue.
 

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Hallo again...

Just wondering about primary education. All the information I've come across seems to aply only to secondary. Does a diploma of education work the same way for primary as it does secondary.

Hope I'm making sense, I don't really know what I'm talking about because I can't make sense of all the information.

Thanks!
 

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Uni lecturer = only need a Masters/PhD in the area you teach, no teaching quals needed... unfortunately!... but many uni's are encouraging of it for their staff.

TAFE Teacher = Cert IV in Training & Assessment plus diploma or degree in your field plus 3+ years industry experience but there are VET degrees around to boost your career prospects.

Don't forget to look at grad entry Bachelor of Ed's or Masters of Teaching - some different uni's call their education 'add on' quals different things. Many in NSW are now 1.5-2 years to fit in the compulsory areas of IT in schools, indigenous education and teaching varying talent kids (i.e. special ed/gifted) as well as the curriculum subjects for the areas you want to teach in... such as your undergrad might teach you personally about Art, but your postgrad Ed course will teach you how to teach others about Art.

Since Primary teachers have to cover so many different key learning areas (English, Science, Maths, Creative Arts, HSIE, PD/H/PE, am I missing one?) those add-on course tend to be a little longer. There isn't a huge shortage of Primary teachers though.

You can do more than two areas, yes. Actually, that's probably a good thing to stand out from the crowd. As you only need to do 6 subjects for secondary (see below), in some circumstances your electives might make up an extra area if your major is in something non-school related.

Details are at NSW Institute of Teachers: Subject Content Requirements (abridged) for those going into a combo Ed degree or the normal degree + add-on Dip Ed type course ...

Primary:
Undergraduate subject content studies are required in addition to a teaching qualification.
For primary teaching this means you need to have a range of studies across curriculum areas
in your undergraduate degree.
For accreditation as a primary teacher your degree should contain:
· one full academic year of study (2 units) in four of the following key learning areas; OR
· two full academic years of study (4 units) in one key learning area AND one full
academic year of study (2 units) in two other key learning areas listed below.
These undergraduate studies are prerequisites for admission to a graduate entry initial
teacher education program (such as a graduate diploma of education, a bachelor of teaching,
or a master of teaching).
During the graduate entry primary initial teacher education program you will study Years K-6
teaching methodology and undertake professional experience in primary schools.

Secondary:
2. Graduate
Undergraduate subject content studies are required in addition to a teaching qualification.
For secondary teaching, where teachers specialise in a subject(s), undergraduate studies
must match the subject(s) that you intend to teach (for example first subject English and
second subject Modern History).
These undergraduate studies are prerequisites for admission to a graduate entry initial
teacher education program (such as a graduate diploma of education, a bachelor of teaching,
or a master of teaching).
During the graduate entry secondary initial teacher education program you will study Years 7-12
teaching methodology and undertake professional experience in secondary schools
Prerequisites for admission in the subject/s you intend to teach are as follows:
First subject you intend to teach
In your undergraduate degree* you are required to undertake three years (6 units or a
major) of studies in one subject with at least 4 of these units at level (year) 2 or above, and
at least one teaching methodology unit and professional experience in that area.
Second subject you intend to teach
If you wish to be qualified to teach a second subject (for flexibility of employment) in your
undergraduate degree* you are required to undertake at least two years (4 units) of
studies with at least 2 units at level (year) 2 or above, and at least one teaching
methodology unit and professional experience in that area.
*Note that appropriate postgraduate studies may be considered.

And it does vary a little from state to state (think Vic requires a couple more weeks prac time or something).

Hope that helps...
 

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has anyone actually applied for a graduate primary course and can tell me how strict they are on fitting subjects into the Key Learning Areas?

I have plenty for Science (easily the 2 Full academic years), but my other subjects don't readily fit in. for example i have 7CP worth of Nutrition (PDHPE KLA), and 6Cp worth of Economics (HSIE KLA) and 6CP worth of Stats (Maths KLA). which would mean I'd have to take on 2 additional subjects, one in the PDHPE KLA and one in the HSIE or Maths KLA?

Does anyone know whether Anatomy studies would fit into the PDHPE KLA? or Genetics into the Maths KLA? I'm also pondering whether a subject I studied called "Professional practice", about managing a small business, dealing with difficult clients, and employee entitlements like Awards etc would classify as Industrial relations and thus fullfill my HSIE quota.

Hmmmm, if anyone can help, that'd be great, I know I'll have the call the DET, but they don't open again until the 11th Jan!!
 

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