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lyounamu said:
I am extremely fortunate to attend my great school and as someone already mentioned, I would never swap this for any school even that school is JRAGHS or SGHS.
Ehh?
 

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sikhman said:
i'm not too sure about that.....i was under the impression that no-one can get someone else's mark......in the scaling report and other bos publications....it says nothing about internal ranks etc.

it talks about averaging internal and raw hsc exam marks and then scaling + aligning them tho....

i'm not too sure about this, so could someone who actually knows about this explain this?
The top external mark (regardless of who got it) = The top internal mark.

You keep your external mark.
 

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tommykins said:
The top external mark (regardless of who got it) = The top internal mark.

You keep your external mark.
So I will just expand on this.

If your rank is 1 internally, you will get the top HSC mark that comes from your school as your internal mark. You keep your own external mark.

So, if you come first in the year and get 98 in HSC (which is also the top HSC mark), you will get 98 as internal and another 98 for external making your mark 98.

If you come first in the year and get 96 which is the 2nd top HSC mark with 98 being the top HSC mark, you will get 98 as internal and you will keep 96 as your external making your mark 97 overall.
 

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lyounamu said:
So I will just expand on this.

If your rank is 1 internally, you will get the top HSC mark that comes from your school as your internal mark. You keep your own external mark.

So, if you come first in the year and get 98 in HSC (which is also the top HSC mark), you will get 98 as internal and another 98 for external making your mark 98.

If you come first in the year and get 96 which is the 2nd top HSC mark with 98 being the top HSC mark, you will get 98 as internal and you will keep 96 as your external making your mark 97 overall.
It's such a stupid confusing system. I think we should just keep the marks we get =.=' It'd be so much simpler to understand that way.
 

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lyounamu said:
LOL

.... what was I meant to say?

I don't remember. It's definitely not the Sydney Girls High School.
Sydney Grammar High School. Pardon my display of ignorance.
 

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blackglitter said:
It's such a stupid confusing system. I think we should just keep the marks we get =.=' It'd be so much simpler to understand that way.
Yeah, you do. You do keep you external mark. It is your only internal mark that gets adjusted according to your school rank.

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Sydney Grammar High School. Pardon my display of ignorance.
That's the one!
 

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lyounamu said:
Yeah, you do. You do keep you external mark. It is your only internal mark that gets adjusted according to your school rank.
Great thanks :) feeling slightly better and less confused
 

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Doesn't this mean at higher ranked schools (better academic achievers), the range of marks is smaller (more people are getting higher marks than at a lower academic schol) thus proving it to be a disadvantage for anyone in a top ranked school who isn't getting top ranks?

Personally, I'm at a school somewhere in the top 20-25 (can't be bothered finding it), and for most of my subjects I'm ranked almost dead in the middle. So this means, even if I do well in my external, I'll still be pulled down by the fact I'm ranked not so well? In that case, what advantages do we actually get from going to a higher ranked school if I could be ranked top 5 in a lower ranked school?

Thanks :)
 

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roborob said:
Doesn't this mean at higher ranked schools (better academic achievers), the range of marks is smaller (more people are getting higher marks than at a lower academic schol) thus proving it to be a disadvantage for anyone in a top ranked school who isn't getting top ranks?

Yeah, but only to a certain extent. For example, say a school has 40% of Band 6s out of every exam (the primary measure of school rankings). It's probably safe to say that if you're within the top 40% of your cohort, then it would prove more of an advantage than a disadvantage. However, if you're below that, that may be another story. There would be some leeway in that some people who were below that 40% of the cohort would get mid-high 80s however, so as long as you're not in the bottom 30%, you should be fine.

roborob said:
Personally, I'm at a school somewhere in the top 20-25 (can't be bothered finding it), and for most of my subjects I'm ranked almost dead in the middle. So this means, even if I do well in my external, I'll still be pulled down by the fact I'm ranked not so well? In that case, what advantages do we actually get from going to a higher ranked school if I could be ranked top 5 in a lower ranked school?

Thanks :)
Depends on whether your cohort does well or not I guess. I don't know, I heard that the ranks were pretty volatile in the HSC years - especially if you were middle, so just try to get up a few ranks to be safe or something. If you were ranked top 5 in a lower ranked school, it shouldn't really matter if those top 5 are always consistent (always get high marks), since it basically means you can ignore the rest of the cohort in terms of affecting your final internal mark.

There isn't really any technical advantage of going to a higher ranked school, but there are definately some advantages in the form of a better cohort and all that.
 

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Aplus said:
Sydney Grammar High School. Pardon my display of ignorance.
Actually, you were right.
SGHS = Sydney Girls
SGS = Grammar

There is no Sydney Grammar High School.
 

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