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lol sif chem nit....

maths al da way man

that being said i feel like a math traitor atm =(
 

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Applied maths is the best major of them all along with financial maths. It gives you solid analytical skills that are useful to any job, and it's well respected cause not many people can stick it out for 3 years doing hardcore maths.

Chemistry is also a good major to get if u are that way inclined.

Physics is prob the worst you could do if u actually want a job at the end. A lot physics grads end up staying at uni doing phD's, cos there's no jobs out there except for research at the uni itself.
 

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I don't think physics is that bad. Physics grads stay at uni because they want to, not because they can't find jobs outside. Their credentials (modelling skills etc) aren't too much different from applied maths ppl, and probably more hands on. The physics department has got more money, btw.

But then again, applied maths + stats with specialisation in financial maths rules if you wanna get into the finance :)


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Applied maths is the best major of them all along with financial maths. It gives you solid analytical skills that are useful to any job, and it's well respected cause not many people can stick it out for 3 years doing hardcore maths.

Chemistry is also a good major to get if u are that way inclined.

Physics is prob the worst you could do if u actually want a job at the end. A lot physics grads end up staying at uni doing phD's, cos there's no jobs out there except for research at the uni itself.
 

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Super Pig said:
I don't think physics is that bad. Physics grads stay at uni because they want to, not because they can't find jobs outside. Their credentials (modelling skills etc) aren't too much different from applied maths ppl, and probably more hands on. The physics department has got more money, btw.

But then again, applied maths + stats with specialisation in financial maths rules if you wanna get into the finance :)
Neither physics nor maths majors actually give you any skill. Knowing what a science degree entails I don't know how anyone could hire a single degree no honours science graduate. It's a walk in the freaking park.
 

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Hehe that's a bit overly pessimistic. A pass degree in science, although isn't much, is at least marginally better than an arts degree and the like. And seeing that most ppl do not go onto honours, presumably most of them will have landed a job somewhere. Whether they are the sort of quality you want is another question.

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Neither physics nor maths majors actually give you any skill. Knowing what a science degree entails I don't know how anyone could hire a single degree no honours science graduate. It's a walk in the freaking park.
 

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That's exactly right. A significant portion of maths/physics grads get into the finance area. An honours year is probably preferable if you wanna get into quant roles.

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Actually maths and physics majors can be snapped up by investment banks who need quantitative skills.
 

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Strong math and phys grads get work as traders/investment analysts at the investment banks. PhDs get work as quants.

The no. of quantitative roles in investment banks is very small. It's not even worth considering.
 

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velox said:
Actually maths and physics majors can be snapped up by investment banks who need quantitative skills.
That's usually only the case for people who have atleast an honours in science or a double degree in say science/commerce or science/engineering. Top investment banks like JP Morgan or Macquarie Bank won't hire u unless u have a well-rounded academic background and that includes a double degree or honours.

I think a lot of people who finish science degrees and don't do honours end up still studying in another field or they go into grad med. It's difficult to get a job on a science degree alone.
 

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Super Pig said:
I don't think physics is that bad. Physics grads stay at uni because they want to, not because they can't find jobs outside. Their credentials (modelling skills etc) aren't too much different from applied maths ppl, and probably more hands on. The physics department has got more money, btw.

But then again, applied maths + stats with specialisation in financial maths rules if you wanna get into the finance :)
I have friends doing physics honours and apparently the physics staff there work hard through incentive schemes to ensure that a lot of students end up doing Phd's.
 

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Ultimate said:
That's usually only the case for people who have atleast an honours in science or a double degree in say science/commerce or science/engineering. Top investment banks like JP Morgan or Macquarie Bank won't hire u unless u have a well-rounded academic background and that includes a double degree or honours.

I think a lot of people who finish science degrees and don't do honours end up still studying in another field or they go into grad med. It's difficult to get a job on a science degree alone.
Lots of science grads also get jobs in pharmaceutical/medical companies, whether it be sales or research. 100k + Car + phone for a science grad - its a very attractive proposition. (sales)

edit: Ultimate, did you end up doing gamsat this year? Or is it on the cards for 2007?
 

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Ultimate said:
I have friends doing physics honours and apparently the physics staff there work hard through incentive schemes to ensure that a lot of students end up doing Phd's.
Yes, the PhD scholarships offered to Honours students are very competitive in terms of $$$. Math university medallists get a $10k top-up on their APA if they continue to do their PhD at UNSW. I imagine it would be similar elsewhere.
 

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velox said:
Lots of science grads also get jobs in pharmaceutical/medical companies, whether it be sales or research. 100k + Car + phone for a science grad - its a very attractive proposition. (sales)

edit: Ultimate, did you end up doing gamsat this year? Or is it on the cards for 2007?
nah, might do it next yr, but i can't really take 4 more years of uni, i've already done 3 1/2, with another 1 1/2 to go
 
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What's the difference between a psychology major through a science degree and an arts?
 

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gemmal said:
What's the difference between a psychology major through a science degree and an arts?
You MIGHT, and I do stress the might, actually be able to get a job which pays over $7.50 an hour with a science degree.

Big might.
 

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Keypad up to his ego antics again. Science grads can get jobs such as psychologists (need 6yrs of study though), finance (with honours) or possibly without honours, hospital scientists (40k starting salary), pharm sales (100K starting salary, but need good sales skills), the list goes on.

Bear in mind you'd need around a D av + to get a decent job.
 

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