Semester 1 Chatter Thread (2008) (7 Viewers)

[Stevo.]

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Passion is a double-edged blade.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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I have finally decided what phil question to answer. Number 6 has taken my fancy.

As Hume said 'Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them'.

David Hume? That guy writes stuff that is somewhat difficult to read.

 

[Silver Persian]

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David Hume? That guy writes stuff that is somewhat difficult to read.

I tried reading some Kant a few days ago. I quickly gave up and went to Wikipedia

 

[stazi]

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:wave:

http://www.ballinarsl.com.au/anzac-day/images/anzac-07.jpg

Nor (warning graphic):

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn...sonplanet.com/images/march2006/100306iraq.jpg
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:tW7fEX3LB_ERRM:http://www.greenleft.org.au/2005/644/644p13.jpg
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn...om/uploaded_images/0000017f-797343-711100.jpg

Now let's march in blind celebration and have a good time.
I don't think that war should be celebrated...ever. And my problem with ANZAC day is that it is a celebration. That sucks balls.

EDIT: And being right-wing has nothing to do with anything, you stupid fuck.

It's not a celebration of war, you stupid idiot. It's an event where we commemorate those soldiers who lost their lives in the war. It is a sad event for the most part. however, as negativity is horrible, it is also a celebration of the Aussie spirit.

 

[kokodamonkey]

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I (l) Stazi

 

[stazi]

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Neb is one of those classic left-wingers who protests against things for the sake of protesting as long as it challenges the status quo.

"wooo let's accept all refugees from all countries around the world. Doesn't matter if we can't support them financially"

"wooo let's make all education free and get rid of private schools"

"wooo let's only have one company in every sector and make it owned by the government"

 

[jb_nc]

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lol whoever is celebrating war every year is probably some raging sociopath

good men sacrificing their lives for liberty is something we should never forget

 

[A High Way Man]

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anyone here make study notes for their uni subject.s

 

[stazi]

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i would expect that arts students still get exposed to rational thought

 

[blakegman]

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lol.

 

[Iheartpaulfrank]

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David Hume? That guy writes stuff that is somewhat difficult to read.

Kant is harder.

 

[stazi]

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guys, stop swearing plz. you're all kants.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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It's not a celebration of war, you stupid idiot.

I watched the news, and I saw pictures of kiddies cheering and waving flags and screaming and people drinking beer and so on at Gallipoli (not this year, but before. It's still relevant). In fact, news.com.au has the caption "after a long day of solemn ceremonies, Australians let their hair down with some traditional fun and games." Yes, well there's nothing really fun or gamey about war or killing or anything like that, so I really, really don't understand the reason for celebration. Unless um, because you can't handle a day of negativity or whatever like our friend Stazi.

I've got no problems with the dawn services and sombre remembrances and so on, but the celebration stuff is disrespectful and does more harm than good. As is the notion that "negativity is bad so we gotta celebrate lol"

Neb is one of those classic left-wingers who protests against things for the sake of protesting as long as it challenges the status quo.

yeah not really if you talk to the crazy lefties at the uni you'd probably quickly find out that i'm one of the least left of them all. So you know, you're wrong.
's entirely untrue. For instance I was in an argument with one the other morning about the intervention, which I don't fully oppose.

Dumb dumb. :rofl:

 

[Silver Persian]

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I think the loud noise made by the socialist left in campus politics makes everybody think that all arts students are crazy communists. But we're not

Hurrary capitalism!11

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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Lies!

 

[stazi]

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I watched the news, and I saw pictures of kiddies cheering and waving flags and screaming and people drinking beer and so on at Gallipoli (not this year, but before. It's still relevant). In fact, news.com.au has the caption "after a long day of solemn ceremonies, Australians let their hair down with some traditional fun and games." Yes, well there's nothing really fun or gamey about war or killing or anything like that, so I really, really don't understand the reason for celebration. Unless um, because you can't handle a day of negativity or whatever like our friend Stazi.

Exactly, it would be horrible to have an event whereby everyone just sat around crying. At dawn hundreds if not thousands gathered and many cried. Later on you celebrate life and the Australian spirit. When you die, would you want people to be in constant mourning or also to celebrate your life?

I've got no problems with the dawn services and sombre remembrances and so on, but the celebration stuff is disrespectful and does more harm than good. As is the notion that "negativity is bad so we gotta celebrate lol"

They're celebrating an entirely different thing though. Are they celebrating the tragic number of lives lost? No.

yeah not really if you talk to the crazy lefties at the uni you'd probably quickly find out that i'm one of the least left of them all. So you know, you're wrong.
's entirely untrue. For instance I was in an argument with one the other morning about the intervention, which I don't fully oppose.

Dumb dumb. :rofl:

Yes, but you're still highly illogical. Stop being in opposition to everything around you. You don't magically become some pseudo-intellectual by claiming that Anzac Day is a celebration of war.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

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Exactly, it would be horrible to have an event whereby everyone just sat around crying. At dawn hundreds if not thousands gathered and many cried. Later on you celebrate life and the Australian spirit. When you die, would you want people to be in constant mourning or also to celebrate your life?

But the circumstances of me dying, I'm guessing, would be vastly different to that of a soldier dying overseas as a result of some government action. There's a time and place for everything. Yeah, celebrate the 'Australian Spirit' (whatever that may be) but not on a day that should probably be remembered for senseless, unecessary death that should be prevented at all costs in the future. Make the day for remembering people who died for a country a completely sombre and reflective one rather than one which U-turns into some farce parade bullshit half way through the day.

They're celebrating an entirely different thing though. Are they celebrating the tragic number of lives lost? No.

Quality, not quantity. Although I'm sure if quantity was no issue then we'd make a massive issue out of the handful of people who've died in Iraq/Afghanistan so far.

Yes, but you're still highly illogical. Stop being in opposition to everything around you. You don't magically become some pseudo-intellectual by claiming that Anzac Day is a celebration of war.

Yeah but that's the thing, once again, talk to the lefties (or me, alternatively) and note that I'm one of them who doesn't totally oppose the NT intervention, who doesn't advocate opening the floodgates to immigrants and who doesn't see much sense in closing private schools on a whim (gradually? of course).

 

[stazi]

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But the circumstances of me dying, I'm guessing, would be vastly different to that of a soldier dying overseas as a result of some government action. There's a time and place for everything. Yeah, celebrate the 'Australian Spirit' (whatever that may be) but not on a day that should probably be remembered for senseless, unecessary death that should be prevented at all costs in the future. Make the day for remembering people who died for a country a completely sombre and reflective one rather than one which U-turns into some farce parade bullshit half way through the day.

But you are saying that people are celebrating senseless death. Why don't you ask the people celebrating: what exactly are they celebrating? The war? No. Furthermore, it's not like Anzac day is some giant party, either.

Yeah but that's the thing, once again, talk to the lefties (or me, alternatively) and note that I'm one of them who doesn't totally oppose the NT intervention, who doesn't advocate opening the floodgates to immigrants and who doesn't see much sense in closing private schools on a whim (gradually? of course).

When did I say you were like the rest of the lefties? I merely said that you're highly illogical.

 

[Stevo.]

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But the circumstances of me dying, I'm guessing, would be vastly different to that of a soldier dying overseas as a result of some government action. There's a time and place for everything. Yeah, celebrate the 'Australian Spirit' (whatever that may be) but not on a day that should probably be remembered for senseless, unecessary death that should be prevented at all costs in the future. Make the day for remembering people who died for a country a completely sombre and reflective one rather than one which U-turns into some farce parade bullshit half way through the day.



Quality, not quantity. Although I'm sure if quantity was no issue then we'd make a massive issue out of the handful of people who've died in Iraq/Afghanistan so far.



Yeah but that's the thing, once again, talk to the lefties (or me, alternatively) and note that I'm one of them who doesn't totally oppose the NT intervention, who doesn't advocate opening the floodgates to immigrants and who doesn't see much sense in closing private schools on a whim (gradually? of course).

Though the Gallipoli campaign failed in its military objectives of capturing Istanbul and knocking Turkey out of the war, the Australian and New Zealand troops' actions during the campaign bequeathed an intangible but powerful legacy. The creation of what became known as an "Anzac legend" became an important part of the national identity in both countries. This shaped the ways they viewed both their past and their future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_Day

ANZAC Day is more than how you interpret it as a celebration of death and war, it isn't. It shaped our nation, it showed our countrymen dying protecting this fledgling country, protecting the freedoms you value so greatly. If you do not understand the significance of ANZAC Day, I seriously don't know what you are doing in this country.

 

[Iheartpaulfrank]

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tl;dr

But it looks as if Neb is getting ganged up on and PWNED.