should these guys be allowed to publically celebrate australia day? (1 Viewer)

[cosmo 2]

i never got the haw hawing over the fact that these guys are trying to disguise their identities especially when it usually comes from people posting anonymously using pseudonyms online themselves

 

[liamkk112]

It's not built on "multiculturalism". It's built on English culture from English immigrants and their descendants.

"Immigrants" are not a coherent group. An anglo Birton and a dinka south sudanese in Australia are both "immigrants" - but their angloness and dinkaness respectively are vastly more salient facts about them than them both being "immigrants" is, as far as the impact they are likely to have on the country.



Do you imagine that everyone but white people are living exclusively in their original, ancient homeland? You cry about Israel, but the implication is that arabs are native to the area when its obviously not true.

Oh, and when jews started immigrating to palestine before the modern israeli state was created, the arabs furiously opposed this, often violently. Well, if opposing immigrants is such a terrible thing, perhaps the palestinians are paying the price for being xenophobic bigots?



SINCE, not until

And Australia has had a white majority for most of its history



What's this "we" crap? White Australians made it the country it is, which attracted other peoples.

And whenever those other people's weren't the product of highly selective immigration, they were very much not peaceful - see Lebanese, Vietnamese, Sudanese (and other africans) etc.

And if multiculturalism is so wonderful, why are you condemning colonisation? Australian wouldn't be multicultural without it.

"and australia has had a white majority for most of its history" okay so we are just going to ignore the 65,000 years of aboriginal people who were here? i dont think 174 years of european occupation is a majority to that

obviously not everyone is not "living exclusively in their original, ancient homeland", the issue is that these people somehow want this country to only allow white people to not live exclusively in their homeland, and every other race should only live in their homeland, and oh this stolen land is now only for white people. seems slightly one sided, if you want everyone to live exclusively in their original homeland then all white people should go back to europe, and aboriginal people should be the only occupants of australia.

i am condemning colonisation, but its not like we can roll back the clock and undo it in the snap of a finger. all i am saying is that we should be grateful that we can 99.9% of the time peacefully share this land with people from many walks of life, instead of constantly being at war with one another over our race as these people seem to want.

all of the immigrants from the countries you mentioned (lebanon, vietnam, sudan etc) have all been peaceful immigrants, all of the immigrants i know are super grateful to be in australia, especially those from disadvantaged backgrounds and i dont think they would seek to commit crimes or whatever you are implying. of course there are organised crime rings and whatever as in every country, but many of these are also people from white backgrounds, as much as they are from non-white backgrounds as your list of countries seems to imply.

 

[cosmo 2]

"and australia has had a white majority for most of its history" okay so we are just going to ignore the 65,000 years of aboriginal people who were here?

that wasn't australia lol

 

[SylviaB]

"and australia has had a white majority for most of its history" okay so we are just going to ignore the 65,000 years of aboriginal people who were here? i dont think 174 years of european occupation is a majority to that

Australia was not a country before colonisation dummy

obviously not everyone is not "living exclusively in their original, ancient homeland", the issue is that these people somehow want this country to only allow white people to not live exclusively in their homeland,

Does China allow mass immigration? No? Okay cool, you going to call them racist?

and every other race should only live in their homeland, and oh this stolen land is now only for white people. seems slightly one sided, if you want everyone to live exclusively in their original homeland then all white people should go back to europe, and aboriginal people should be the only occupants of australia.

Oh, so Europeans in Europe get to say no to foreigners? Oh that's right, of course they don't, because you don't actually care what land is "rightfully" anyone elses, you just think white people have to let in unlimited immigrants no matter what.

i am condemning colonisation, but its not like we can roll back the clock and undo it in the snap of a finger. all i am saying is that we should be grateful that we can 99.9% of the time peacefully share this land with people from many walks of life, instead of constantly being at war with one another over our race as these people seem to want.

How many non-white countries do you think would be okay with Australia's level of immigration (as a percentage of the population)?

all of the immigrants from the countries you mentioned (lebanon, vietnam, sudan etc) have all been peaceful immigrants, all of the immigrants i know are super grateful to be in australia, especially those from disadvantaged backgrounds and i dont think they would seek to commit crimes or whatever you are implying.

People from these countries are VASTLY overrepresented in crime perpetration, especially africans

No immigrant group in australia is grateful to be here. I remember seeing a sudanese woman on qanda a few years ago crying that wheetbox boxes don't have pictures of africans on them. There is no "problem" too trivial for these people to treat as oppression.

ScoMo lost substantial support of chinese voters because he dared to stand up to china and call for a covid-19 investigation. That's right, "grateful" chinese australians have ZERO loyalty to australia and will abandon you if you don't bow down to china. So grateful!

of course there are organised crime rings and whatever as in every country, but many of these are also people from white backgrounds, as much as they are from non-white backgrounds as your list of countries seems to imply.

No, not "as much as". Muslims, africans and other minority groups commit the vast majority of per capita violent crime in australia.

 

[SylviaB]

Of course, it's not just a moral/identity thing

White people are why Australia is the country it is

Bringing in people who have never built a good country before, even in places they've ruled for thousands of years, is not how you maintain and build on Australia's greatness

 

[totally_screwed]

browns claim white people have no culture

five minutes later they're crying their eyes out about white people not being "inclusive" with their culture

I didn't say white ppl don't have a culture bcz they do
Australian culture however doesn't have any substance, ur not "Australian" by blood ur some other actual white that ur ancestors were

 

[totally_screwed]

"never built a good country before"
by whose standards
and that makes it okay to colonise?

 

[Queenroot]

because they're extreme political dissidents, and every elite institution in Australia is falling over itself to destroy the lives of people like this, which is true regardless of how much you think they deserve it

I thought Murdoch media would be frothing over this

 

[nsw..wollongong]

Well, if opposing immigrants is such a terrible thing, perhaps the palestinians are paying the price for being xenophobic bigots?

Keep in mind that Palestine never agreed to the 1917 Balfour Declaration ANYWAYS. So how on earth do u think its fair to thrust a group of people in a country that rejected the claims of establishing modern Israel 3 decades later, ofc there'd be unrest

 

[cosmo 2]

and most australians never agreed to our population growth/ immigration levels either, with every opinion poll increasingly showing that they don't want it. so will the same logic be allowed to apply to them, or do you only care about the palestinians?

 

[barackobamashusband69420]

what do you think fellas?

super epic or did they do a racism that went too far?

is that police officers

 

[barackobamashusband69420]

Keep in mind that Palestine never agreed to the 1917 Balfour Declaration ANYWAYS. So how on earth do u think its fair to thrust a group of people in a country that rejected the claims of establishing modern Israel 3 decades later, ofc there'd be unrest

why are u guys yappying about palestine this thread is about literal australia day

 

[nsw..wollongong]

why are u guys yappying about palestine this thread is about literal australia day

Sylvia brought it up bro I’m just as confused as you

 

[cosmo 2]

is that police officers

no, very unlikely

sometimes things are just what they seem

 

[SylviaB]

I thought Murdoch media would be frothing over this

if you think murdoch media support anything like these guys you are delusional

do you ever go on news.com.au?

 

[cosmo 2]

yeah y would a boomer (the most philosemetic demographic in all human history) news platform be supportive of neo nazis

 

[lolcti]

sometimes I just come on here and laugh at how pathetic some people are, like imagine having no life

 

[cosmo 2]

that sounds suspiciously like something somebody with absolutely no life themselves would say

 

[Sadoplop1]

asians clink my ass

 

[lolcti]

that sounds suspiciously like something somebody with absolutely no life themselves would say

Ok bro I’m 16, I’m pretty sure I have a long life ahead since I’m concerned about my future and on a study forum However, people like you and Sylvia who are going on 40 with no relevancy to this study forum says a lotttt, I was pissed off for a while, but realised you guys are grown ass immature insensitive adults so go on it’s not like anyone here agrees with any of your opinions anyways and fck off with it’s a “joke” nobody can defend youse at this point