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No assurance of Salvation.

* Mohammed said. "By Allah, though I am the apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me." Vol. 5:266

God punishes a deceased if his relatives weep.

* Mohammed said, "The deceased is punished because of the weeping of his relatives." Vol. 2:375
Holy war (Jihad) is a guarantee of heaven.

* Mohammed said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to paradise (if he is killed). " Vol. 1:35
1: this is because he doesnt know the unseen, he could be referring to trials and tribulations, not the hereafter. we all know (muslims i mean, the educated ones) that he will be the first to step into heaven. logically if he were to go to hell, then we would all have to wait for him to come out, which doesnt sound right...

2:CONTEXT PEOPLE!!! at his time he also forbade women to attend funerals because they used to, according to pre-ignorance times, cry out loud and slap their breasts, making alot of racket. see the sound that slapping your chest makes, then imagine 10 or so 'proffessionals' doing it. very loud indeed. and why should the person weep? if the deceased was good they would go to heaven right?

3: hmmm, this is completely true for a change, except that the (holy battles) added by some goof refers to jihad. jihad btw isnt a "war against muslims". it can be anything from fighting for a good cause (the exploited reason) to striving to learn (like us.w00t! we're doing jihad under your noses!) notice how the words in the brackets refer to a fight, when i have just said that it isnt entirely that. also the prophet didnt do "holy wars". the first was that he originally wanted to raid a caravan to compensate for what they took of them in makkah, which resulted in an unexpected battle. the second (uhud) was also self-defense. i have been to makkah/madinah, and mountain of uhud is ALOT closer to madinah than makkah. the third was fought at MADINAH'S GATES. the prophet then accepted a 10 year treaty with the makkans, even though he had been degraded in the wording of the treaty. when the makkans broke the treaty the prophet went and conquered makkah with NO BLOODSHED. not sounding aggresive, huh? the prophet undertook two more conquests, one was which he went to meet an army which had formed to take makkah off him again, anf they almost succeded in defeating the muslims, but when you have hundreds of angels fighting for you, how can you lose? also this was the only battle in which the muslims were more, but many of them fleed, making the muslims the smaller army again before they won. the last one was to meet a phony rumor that persia had set an army to take over makkah.

may i also add just for laughs that the devil was with the quraish (makkans) for one battle, i think the first one. when he saw the angels towering over the small army, he took flight, farting all the way. the makkans asked him "where are you going?"(they didnt know who he was) he said " i can see what you cant see" and kept on running/farting. rotfl! that deserves to be in a comedy!!
 

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physician i agree with your sayings.... and zahid you are funny in a way but not really??
 

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veterandoggy said:
jeez thats alot to clean up!!

ok lets start

the womens mind refers to how her emotions can cause her decision to sway.

the second point: WTF!!!! never heard of it! the prophet wasnt sent down to degrade his people, only to warn them!

the 3rd point: the majority of dwellers are women. we dont need much proof that women are the core of alot of desire, hence they are source of alot of sins, bearing in mind that i'm referring to specific people, not all women, as one would try to make me sound...
and we mustnt forget that the ratio of women to men is increasing, so that also adds up.
Hmmm... Women are at fault for the men not being being to control themselves, and a woman's emotions may well impair her ability to reason (implicit within this is that men are not afflicted by such a condition)? Great stuff!

Edit: If that's not what you are trying to say, then I suggest that you take the time to express yourself in a manner that isn't open to such interpretations. However, given the comments of others in the past, I think that my interpretation is reasonable, if a tad overdone.
 
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Generator if you read my previous post then you would know that i clearly state... "not that men are pure and all..."
 

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well a person should provide two parts of an argument and i was kinda supporting "veterandoggy's" claim...
 

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oOoOoOo i got some more! goodie!

# MEDICINE

Drinking camel's urine will make you healthy.

* "The prophet ordered them to follow his camels, and drink their milk and urine , so they followed the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy."
Vol. 7:590


A fly in your drink is a cure.

* Mohammed said, "If a housefly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease. " Vol. 4:537

How the baby's looks are determined.

* Mohammed said, "As for the child, if the man's discharge precedes the woman's discharge, the child attracts the similarity of the man, and if the woman's discharge precedes the man's, then the child attracts the similarity of the woman." Vol. 5:275
1: it was a prescription, and if they were healed, then it is proof of the prophet's divine judgements, is it not?
2: you must dip the fly in case only the poison wing was dipped into it. btw if you behead a fly and rub it on hornet stings, it reduces the pain, so these are helpful, which is confusing me.
3: well, this one wouldnt need explanation. the prophet was capable of making these TRUE judgements 1400 years ago? if Hippocrates had made these judgements he would have probably preceded many prominent scientists, i'm sure.

edit: fixed the quote
 

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playboy2njoy said:
Well in case you don't know, this is Australia, and having sex with a girl that young IS pedophilia. There is no excuse. Welcome to the 21st century.
WTF are you talking about? the prophet was in saudi arabia 1400 years ago, when pre prophethood saw young girls buried alive by their father, and all women were treated like pieces of flesh. the prophet (pbuh) was more than a blessing for the misguided people of his time.
 

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yeh true that.

should i do some more explanations of the websites? or is that enough for a night?

edit: ok im off, but ill be back and flaring tomorrow. see ya sonic, physician, and rest of my supporters and enemies(of speech of course. i dont even know you!).
 
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All a-dither on the hill

By Mike Carlton
November 12, 2005


FLORID features oozing triumph, raddled Ron Boswell, the National Party Senate leader, was bursting to rubbish anyone who had dared to suggest the Government had been ramping up the terrorist threat. "They have egg all over their face from head to foot," he crowed on Tuesday.

With 18 terrorist suspects now behind bars in supermax, the Prime Minister and the Attorney-General and their media toadies have trumpeted the timely wisdom of ram-raiding the emergency Anti-Terrorism Act 2005 through Parliament last week: the nation saved from catastrophe in the nick of time. The legislation had been "expeditious and effective", claimed John Howard, caterpillar eyebrows again entwined in orgasm.

Utter poppycock. Dangerous nonsense. In fact, it was an alarming demonstration of the Government's incompetence. [...]

Full Article, SMH
(I have not actually had a chance to look at the amendments so I personally cannot confirm this)
 

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playboy2njoy said:
Oh how much he must have guided them then. Funnily enough, they still treat women in Islam as a lower form of life
no, now the corrupt muslims treat women that low. i treat my mum like a queen because muslims who actually read about their religion would know that the women are the holders of the nation, and that heaven is under your mother's feet. wouldnt that be enough elevation?
 

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i guess that's what happens when you run your life according to some old book

this would be like jk rowling going to the future only to find out that everyone thinks harry potter was the messiah and waging wars over what certain sentences mean

god religion is stupid
 

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