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Dont get me wrong, Im all for helping the environment and climate change. But if you are going to ban something, replace it with something at least equivalent. We just keep getting screwed. The worst thing is the talk of banning gas - sorry but you cant convince me that a gas stove and heating beats electric. Also gas is cheaper.
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It doesn't seem like it though. Things don't happen instantaneously. Do you seriously expect all these sustainable energy's like hydrogen, solar, electricity and the like to be a immediately a better alternative to the traditional GHG's you have mentioned (or things which aren't good for the environment like plastic) as soon as they are explored?
- regardless of whose fault it is, we can expect there to be positive change without actually embracing it. Whether you like it or not, it is a real issue and something that needs to be addressed + there are plenty of studies to prove that with funding and time, they can be that better alternative (more efficient etc) but until they have those economies of scale
- yes cost of living is an issue. But the government has done a decent job (whilst it could be better) towards addressing this all things considered.
But that isnt what people are seeing. When you have bills and are worried about paying for your kids school, braces etc you're patience for long lofty goals wears thin quickly. I understand these things because I have 10 years of experience working in the Public Service, but to the average punter they wont. Electricity bills going up and restrictions on popular items are absolute poison to any climate initiatives.

Another thing to consider, energy efficiency rules and disability compliance rules recently implemented have added around $40k of costs to the average price to build a new home. Now, putting that cost on people tends to piss them off - also, it can prevent houses from being built because that extra $40k can be the difference between getting financing and not. Also it kind of sucks that I have to fork out this money for my own home. I should have a choice (noting, if I built, Id add the energy efficiency stuff, but its my choice).
 

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