The Individual and Society (2 Viewers)

[mrman]

wishy washy. Yeh, I can see where your coming from.

I think we should just say to Leon

"Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defence."

Take a few words out of jinglebells book? i guess she must have signed up around christmas

 

[s2ophie]

well i did the independent I&S paper today. has anyone else done it?

 

[Jinglebell]

Originally posted by mrman
i guess she must have signed up around christmas

actually it was my nickname from year 8 of something...don't even really remember why now, but no one came up with a better nickname for me so it stuck i'm open to suggestions though

and yeah, wishy washy just about sums up high school debating.

 

[mrman]

how about senior member as a nickname?

 

[Jinglebell]

'extension 2 english is killing me' would work at this point

 

[mrman]

yeah, when is your english extension 2 due?

 

[s2ophie]

Originally posted by mrman
yeah, when is your english extension 2 due?

just go to the EE2 forum and you'll quickly get the idea that it is very soon! wednesday actually!

 

[braindrainedAsh]

Tuesday for us because we are going to Sydney on Wednesday!!!!!!!! Damn King Lear, when will he ever just leave my life alone!!!!!!

 

[mrman]

so you dont actually live in sydney? Probably explains the phrase
"Happiness is like peeing your pants- everyone can see it but only you can feel the warmth!"

Actually in explains alot in your case!

 

[braindrainedAsh]

WTF? Are you paying out non metropolitan people???? You've got a lotta nerve mate. Soph, back me up here!!!!!

 

[s2ophie]

Yes its true: people do actually live outside Sydney! yeah non-metropolitan people are good!

(ahem thats why ash and i both want to move to sydney next year!)

 

[braindrainedAsh]

LOL yeah I forgot about that Soph.... it's only because we want to compare non-metro life to city life to show that it is oh so much more exciting

 

[Dude135]

hey ppl,
for those of you that studied browning, dolls house and P&P, which of those texts in your opinion presents the notion of the individual in society more effectively

 

[Jinglebell]

it depends which text you relate to the most...as much as i love browning, i just can't relate to it as much as P&P (mostly due to the previously discussed affinity with lizzy and a strong, uh, 'admiration' for colin firth).

so for me, it's P&P...but then, if you're not a girl then you may not think so. it's highly subjective...and i really shouldn't have tried to answer any sort of question in my current state of brain-dead exhaustion, but i hope you get my drift - there's no definitive 'good' text, it depends on you...and what sort of line you take in your essays, i guess.

 

[Rayanz]

i walked out of the extension 1 exam last week thinkin 'omg that was so hard..' i couldnt answer the Q properly -

my friends were talkin about how easy it was - the second Q which i couldnt do. i felt so stupid knowin i found it so hard

then i realised i did the wrong question!!!

fuck

the actual question was dead easy. i chose the wrong one for I&S course. thats bad


so i failed a trial worth 40%. not great


good luck to the rest of u

 

[s2ophie]

Originally posted by Dude135
hey ppl,
for those of you that studied browning, dolls house and P&P, which of those texts in your opinion presents the notion of the individual in society more effectively

As much as i love P& P i think dolls house represents I&S most effectively. The C19th was hypocritical in its difference between appearance and reality - the way Ibsen presents the empowerment of a female from her 'most sacred obligations' in her home strongly shows the view of society and how the needs of individuals can override this.

 

[braindrainedAsh]

Oooohhhh Soph very smart.

P&P really only shows moderate change or challenge of social conventions, because Elizabeth does succumb to the institution of marriage in the end. Ibsen is really "in your face", I think his hyperealism challenges social conventions like marriage most strongly.

 

[s2ophie]

thanks ash
the other thing i meant to add was when you look at P&P is is an 1813 time period whereas Ibsen is 1879 and Browning is middle of the century. P&P is more tied up with old world values and advocates only a moderate change whereas Ibsen and Browning push for radical change based on their reflections of the values (ways of thinking!) of the decades before them.

Despite that, i still love P&P! 'You must allow me to tell you how ardently i admire and love you' sigh!

 

[Jinglebell]

hmm, great 'doll's house' points...did i mention we're o behind that we haven't even really started that yet? GAH! with 4 lessons to go, we've barely touched on it! i think i feel an ext 1 holiday study group coming on

Originally posted by s2ophie
'You must allow me to tell you how ardently i admire and love you' sigh!

and don't you just see and hear colin firth every time you read that line? i'll see your sigh and raise you a swoon

 

[s2ophie]

Originally posted by Jinglebell
i'll see your sigh and raise you a swoon

lol. how about we agree to swoon together!?!