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The Board of Studies inspector for English, Tony Moore, says students who buy the Shakespeare "university lit-crit, let's put a Marxist, feminist, postmodern spin on critical theory" would be penalised by markers, who have noticed the trend in the past few exams.

The HSC examiners report last year said most students who answered the King Lear question "referred to productions, readings and critical interpretations". The most effective responses were those where students "presented a critical and personal engagement with the text", established a clear argument and backed it up with "thoughtful reference" to the play.

The weaker responses, however, "provided a list of critical views and/or theories but had not engaged personally" in analysing these views.
 
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Damn... so how does one "critically and personally engage with the text", then?
 

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I think what it states is that students have to look at the text from their own understanding and describe what it means to them, instead of regurtitating what came out of a book which is so commonly used
 

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Hmm but I justify a marxist intepretation myself. And from the social context I can view it and back it up myself. Grrr stupid personal engagement I really didnt find it interesting enough to form my own views.
 

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Its from a SMH article. According to my teacher they are not interested in all those ism's and interpretations but rather your opinions.
 

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Personally? I dont get it? Ive got good marks for Lear, and that just confuses me. Ill just stick to what I always do.
 

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acmilan1987 said:
According to my teacher they are not interested in all those ism's and interpretations but rather your opinions.
What so theyre not interested in critical readings? Even tho its critical study of text. Your teacher sounds WRONG!
 

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Hey im just quoting what a marker is saying. It would explain why she never went through any of those ism's with us and always made us tell her our views
 

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It does justify the fact that markers usually get bored when they read the same thing over and over again. If 30 ppl, if not 500 were to say exactly the same thing back to a teacher then obviously they would all be penalised.

If you look at the first post, it would tell you that people are getting penalised by using that particular Guide, so dont use it and you will be fine
 

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Basically the rest of the article talks about how most English teachers find it hard to get a good grasp on the complexity of teaching King Lear, especially with what the syllabus wants of students.
 

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hmmm... my interpretation of KL is that he is an aging baby boomer who is trying to hold on to his status as king, and retire at the same time... he also has a very unhealthy relationship with his daughters, I think. even though that is my interpretation, it won't get me any marks...
 

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All the teachers in my school are HSC markers. My teacher is a senior HSC marker, I'll do it the way i've always done it thanks. :p
 

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egnaro said:
I think what it states is that students have to look at the text from their own understanding and describe what it means to them, instead of regurtitating what came out of a book which is so commonly used
would you be able to use the word "i" in your essay?
it's pretty hard to personally engage without using that word...
 

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Crikket said:
would you be able to use the word "i" in your essay?
it's pretty hard to personally engage without using that word...
ooh good question, this always confuses me! any help here would be great... omg i hate King Lear, just realised exactly how much. think i'll go back to school for most of the first week to get some help.
ok rambling, but yeh can we use the word "i"?
 

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its not frowned upon too much, but an essay has greater effect in thrid person. BUT HANG ON, it wont b an essay will it now...so think bout diff text types...interview etc--u can certainly express personal views in that form!
Interviewer: does Shakespeare's King Lear(underlined) has a misogynist emphasis?
Responder: McLuskie belives that the play does, but blah blah i think this as a consequence of techinqes ansd the form of the play and so on...
 

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Yeh you can if its in a conversation form or an interview form, but its completely dependant on the text type.. which sucks.

What do you do if you your opinions are extremely similar to the critical theory?
 

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i think the only thing it wud b hard to convey ur interpretation in an essay format but thats it...My opinions are very close to bradley's reading, as bradly is a traditional reading, it is dominant and thus more acceptable (u prove that in ur response in the exam btw), and u use his reading as well as ur own interpretation to sort of discern the other interpretations (such as the feminist one) in terms of values
 

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I think this applies to the critical study in general not just Lear...
 

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yeh sorry i made it specific to lear, coz thats wot i know, and used it as an example, neways yeh all that can b applied to nething in module b
 

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