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Who is going to vote liberal? (2 Viewers)

Enteebee

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If a policy is valid, it should recieve bi-partisan support.
I agree, however generally these instances have nothing to do with whether it's valid and everything to do with whether it has popular support... more so in this campaign I think it's just to neutralise policy and make this election one fought mostly on personality grounds.
 

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Yea probably, while I think Labor's definately using this tactic the most in this election I'd say the biggest instance of it came with the budget where the Coalition went against their usual (somewhat smarter) stance and gave a pre-emptive "me too" of tax cuts mainly to middle income earners.

Thanks Dan :D
 

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With the current poll predicted swings they'll do a lot better than win 16 seats, they'll win roughly 93-94 of the entire 150, that's another 33-34 seats.
 

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That's what the media reported, but the polls really never showed that.

 

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Schroedinger said:
Wait Labor has to win SIXTEEN SEATS to get into power?

Are you serious? There's no chance of that happening. Sixteen seats? That's ridiculous.
Lindsay
Macquarie
Eden-Monaro
Dobell
Page
Bonner
Flynn (at a stretch)
Wakefield
Bass
Braddon (if the Mersey porkbarrel doesn't hold it for the Liberals)
Robertson (possibly)
Blair
Moreton
Solomon
La Trobe
McMillan (perhaps)
Corangamite
Sturt (perhaps)
Kingston
Makin

It's doable. There are also additional seats that might be at risk (Bennelong, North Sydney, Wentworth, Macarthur).

Edit: forgot WA - also Stirling and Hasluck.
 
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zimmerman8k said:
Do you trust betting markets?
just fyi a horse is $1.01 doesnt mean its going to win

so no i dont trust betting markets
 

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zimmerman8k said:
But odds of $1.01 dosen't indicate a certain win.
yes but its the favourite

like labor
 

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I AM VOTING LIBERAL

1st: the liberal party has NOT messed up the economy. THey have, in fact managed it so well. interest rates are currnetly at 6.75%. During labours Keating gvt, they were at 12% and the all time high was during a labour gvt at 17.88%. now that is HIGh.
2. people are so used to john howards excellent economic management for 11yrs that they forget what the past was like
3. ask anyone over 40 and they'll tell you why NOT to vote Labour.
4. kevin rudd has no idea of the working family, he is a multi millionare...he is worth more than Johnny ever has been
5. labour spends waaaaayyyyyy to much money.
 
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OASIS92 said:
I AM VOTING LIBERAL

1st: the liberal party has NOT messed up the economy. THey have, in fact managed it so well. interest rates are currnetly at 6.75%. During labours Keating gvt, they were at 12% and the all time high was during a labour gvt at 17.88%. now that is HIGh.
2. people are so used to john howards excellent economic management for 11yrs that they forget what the past was like
3. ask anyone over 40 and they'll tell you why NOT to vote Labour.
4. kevin rudd has no idea of the working family, he is a multi millionare...he is worth more than Johnny ever has been
5. labour spends waaaaayyyyyy to much money.
Don't forget the unions!1!1

I'm hoping for a Florida style showdown where the entire election hinges on a couple of votes in Bennelong. that would be killer fun.
 

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I thought the polls were pretty good for '04? Latham's brief lead was only around 51, but never ahead on prefered PM, or better economic manager.
The last week was still the major decider
 

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Schroedinger said:
I really just don't trust polls after getting my hopes up regarding Latham and Beazley. Which was pretty cool and all, but, you know. It failed MISERABLY.

I really don't want to pay polls any credence.
I think they're ok.
Beazley, for instance, was miles ahead in the polls at the start of 01. Small target strategy and knowledge nation looked like it would get him across easy.
He went into free-fall after s11 and Tampa. Totally buried by events.
But he clawed back some ground in the debate and the polls started to go back in Labor's favour, just not enough for victory.
The polls reflected that story fine I RECKON
 

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I am absolutely voting Liberal.
looking at the stats, they have bettered our country more than labor ever will or ever have.. i mean look at the debt that labor left us in last time - and piss off complaining about interest rates, they were at like 12% when labor was in power!

its not rudd im scared of, its gillard, and all of the union officials.


here are the stats for anyone who is considering voting labor and must be insane...(all based on when labor was in power, and coalition now)

NET GOVERNMENT DEBT
labor: 95.8b
liberal:0!!

average mortgage rates
labor: 12.75%
liberal: 7.15%

real wages growth:
labor: -1.8%
liberal: 21.5%

unemployment rate:
labor: 8.2%
liberal: 4.3%

long term unemployed
labor: 197,800
liberal:71,400

australians in work
labor: 8.3 mil
liberal: 10.5 mil

average inflation:
labor: 5.2%
liberal:2.5%

average household wealth
labor: $136,257
liberal: $348,782

industrial disputes
labor: 193
liberal: 59


AS IF YOU NEED ANY MORE REASON TO VOTE LIBERAL AND STICK WITH JOHNNY !!!
 

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Schroedinger said:
Yeah like Latham was a shoe in and then lost pretty much every seat ever.

I do NOT trust polls.
As I showed in the other thread, the polls are fine, it's the media's reporting on the polls that is usually most fucked up.
 

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Schroedinger said:
I don't know whether to love you or hate you. Where is Stef gone? What did you do to her? I loved that girl and she went away.

Now you see what we have become.
She's ooown vacation Forrest
 

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Will not be voting for Kevin Howard, nor John Rudd.

South Park best summed up the choice of candidates; A giant douche or a turd sandwich. Besides, it doesn't really matter who gets in. By the next election Howard will be gone. Either way I'm quite content, despite the pestillent myazma of scare campaigns.
 

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