Why so few anarchists? (1 Viewer)

[scuba_steve2121]

Why do you randoms feel the need to articulate you thoughts on these matters?

Knowledge derived from these far-right crackpot website you frequent is not permissible in rational conversations..
There is simply no theory or evidence to support these nut-job fantasies, the 'free-market' is not efficient, the private market does not provide an efficient quantity of social goods, governments make everyone better of,
Without government intervention Australia would be in a depression right now, there's no need to let the 'free market take its course'.

Please leave your foul basements and go and study the proper material if your interested in these matters.

so you want the government to run everything?

 

[Rothbard]

Guys Lemon is OmarComin and is a troll okay

 

[scuba_steve2121]

Guys Lemon is OmarComin and is a troll okay

oh that makes sense

i mean seriously nobody in their right mind actually believes in socialist style countries. i mean especially now with the empirical evidence that they are epic failures

 

[-Lemon-]

Guys Lemon is OmarComin and is a troll okay

huh? wrong on both counts..

 

[SylviaB]

privitisation of defence namely

We don't need a standing army, and given the extreme costs and power they give states, they're not in our best interests.
Militias are better at defending a nation than standing armies.
Although warfare is certainly different nowadays, stateless Ireland (who didn't have a standing army) survived over 300 years of sieges by Britain, the strongest military force in the world at the time. See also, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc

Certain other public goods like roads and stuff.

The Privatization of Roads and Highways - Walter Block

easy peasy

 

[badquinton304]

Ad_infinium also known as:
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Wingstroke

 

[17028354]

Australian Constitution - Section 21- Vacancy to be notified Whenever a vacancy happens in the Senate, the President, or if there is no President or if the President is absent from the Commonwealth the Governor-General, shall notify the same to the Governor of the State in the representation of which the vacancy has happened.

s 51 paragraph 31 lol woops

 

[ademayd]

all artworks have artists,
and the universe is much magnificient than all the artwork Ive seen

 

[TacoTerrorist]

hey taco question

from what i can gather you don't like the state, private property or capitalism

so my question is how do people get anything done?

I can gather from this that you believe money is the only motivator. It is neither the only motivator nor the best motivator. How did anyone get things done before the State, private property or capitalism? They did things for the benefit of their community. This website is very good:

An Anarchist FAQ | Anarchist Writers

 

[scuba_steve2121]

I can gather from this that you believe money is the only motivator. It is neither the only motivator nor the best motivator. How did anyone get things done before the State, private property or capitalism? They did things for the benefit of their community. This website is very good:

An Anarchist FAQ | Anarchist Writers

nah mate i want to hear it in your own words of how your system would work XD

then i will take your system to shit as i expose the myriad of ethical problems that encompass anarcho-syndicalism. your system is as bad as the state frankly

 

[TacoTerrorist]

I really can't be fucked writing an essay on Anarcho-syndicalism dude.

 

[SylviaB]

nah mate i want to hear it in your own words of how your system would work XD

then i will take your system to shit as i expose the myriad of ethical problems that encompass anarcho-syndicalism. your system is as bad as the state frankly

ugh you don't believe in morality do you

 

[scuba_steve2121]

I really can't be fucked writing an essay on Anarcho-syndicalism dude.

lol if people like me, Rothbard and Sylvester can summarise anrcho-capitalism in 3 lines. why can't you do the same for you inferior system?

 

[scuba_steve2121]

ugh you don't believe in morality do you

havn't really looked into it.

 

[SylviaB]

then

ethical problems

idk

 

[TacoTerrorist]

Inferior? Lol. Fine, I'll give a brief overview.

Anarcho-Syndicalism is the political doctrine that holds that the State is a harmful and unnecessary entity. The state is a form of illegitimate authority that upholds arbitrary laws that serve only to restrict the liberty of the people under its control. The state apparatus defends the capitalist system from its victims, and is a tool for the rich to legally exert their will upon their wage-slaves.

Therefore, both the state and the capitalist system it protects need to be permanently removed. This can only happen through violent revolution initiated by workers. An Anarcho-Syndicalist society would be comprised of many different worker's collectives, where each workplace is ran with direct democracy under the control of the people who work in it. Money will be abolished and replaced with a system that awards workers for time worked, either based purely on time or based on the difficulty/skill required of the work as well.

These workers collectives are called syndicates. The idea is to eliminate the motive of goods produced for profit and to create goods that are produced for human need instead.

 

[scuba_steve2121]

Inferior? Lol. Fine, I'll give a brief overview.

Anarcho-Syndicalism is the political doctrine that holds that the State is a harmful and unnecessary entity. The state is a form of illegitimate authority that upholds arbitrary laws that serve only to restrict the liberty of the people under its control. The state apparatus defends the capitalist system from its victims, and is a tool for the rich to legally exert their will upon their wage-slaves.

Therefore, both the state and the capitalist system it protects need to be permanently removed. This can only happen through violent revolution initiated by workers. An Anarcho-Syndicalist society would be comprised of many different worker's collectives, where each workplace is ran with direct democracy under the control of the people who work in it. Money will be abolished and replaced with a system that awards workers for time worked, either based purely on time or based on the difficulty/skill required of the work as well.

These workers collectives are called syndicates. The idea is to eliminate the motive of goods produced for profit and to create goods that are produced for human need instead.

ok first problem

what if people don't want to be in these syndicalists. you are infringing on liberty there

also direct democracies have the same ethical problems of the democratic states we have now. you basically make decisions that affect everyone. what if possibly up 49.9999% of the people don't like the decision? doesn't matter because majority rules right? so much for no oppression

 

[TacoTerrorist]

ok first problem

what if people don't want to be in these syndicalists. you are infringing on liberty there

also direct democracies have the same ethical problems of the democratic states we have now. you basically make decisions that affect everyone. what if possibly up 49.9999% of the people don't like the decision? doesn't matter because majority rules right? so much for no oppression

Nobody would be forced to join a syndicate. If you don't want to you wouldn't have to. Those people would labour on their own. Direct democracy is the best way of making sure everyone has a say in how their workplace is run. As there is no hierarchy and are in the same position, they all have the same interests.

 

[scuba_steve2121]

Nobody would be forced to join a syndicate. If you don't want to you wouldn't have to. Those people would labour on their own. Direct democracy is the best way of making sure everyone has a say in how their workplace is run. As there is no hierarchy and are in the same position, they all have the same interests.

lol they would probs start there own little capitalist state.

no it isn't once you makes decisions for people regardless if a group of people want to adhere to it or not. you are oppressing there wishes not to. also violent revolution? fuck that's a little extreme

you have created a system of oppression just like a state. democracy on every level is flawed

thus your system is no a true a system of anarchy and inherently infringes of personal liberties of others.

also collectivism doesn't work. Human nature prevents it from working efficiently. in your system people would starve very quickly. also another thing what if one syndicalist wanted to take over and enforce their rules over another one. it would lead to war and further operssion as they might belive there syndaclist is better for the people in the other one.

and again what if one syndalicst doesn't have th enecessary land to make a living for its population

also who (if this revolution happens) decides how land is distrubuted?

it would lead to another state

your system is flawed on so many levels

 

[Silver Persian]

ugh you don't believe in morality do you

So, the state coercively appropriating tax revenue is not immoral?