What bos said about the sor 2009 hsc exam (2 Viewers)

[mesbaz]

I'm on the side of the Board of Studies. The essay questions deemed 'unfair' required the application of knowledge and a holistic understanding of the course i.e. an awareness of the religion in contemporary society.

I understand their point. All I'm saying is that they should have made the question more clear and concise. just like they asked for ' ethics/practice ' in Buddhism/Hinduism, they should've used those words in Islam/Christianity so the kids doing those topics knew what to write about. its a religion exam not an English exam.

" an awareness of the religion in contemporary society "

that is just too broad for people that have studied different aspects of one religion.

its like asking in a history exam to " describe old kingdom egypt" instead of saying " describe " religion " in old kinddom egypt"

like how on earth do you know what to talk about ?

 

[possessionless]

I'm on the side of the Board of Studies. The essay questions deemed 'unfair' required the application of knowledge and a holistic understanding of the course i.e. an awareness of the religion in contemporary society.

+1

love you!! hahahaha.

 

[mesbaz]

+1

love you!! hahahaha.

seriously.
why do you keep coming here.
this doesn't even concern you.
you've come here like 3 times to tell people to either get over it or go on about how easy it was. don't you have anything better to do...

 

[monsters]

I'm on the side of the Board of Studies. The essay questions deemed 'unfair' required the application of knowledge and a holistic understanding of the course i.e. an awareness of the religion in contemporary society.

agreed. that's what the board of studies said, i've been in contact with a teacher who spoke to one of the people who put the exam together and they said you needed to provide a holistic response to the religion and how it's relevant in the life of adherents, taking into account practise, ethics and probably how the contribution of significant individuals allowed the religion to evolve over time. it was an essay to summarise everything we've learnt. if people don't get that, then clearly they chose the wrong course..

 

[mesbaz]

omfg. for people who understood the question so well you guys seriously are not understanding what majority of the people in this thread are saying

we do not care what the question was asking
the content they wanted is fine
we did not memorize essays
even if we did that would not have been the problem
its not about WHAT the question was asking for its about HOW it was asked.

:mad1:

 

[monsters]

omfg. for people who understood the question so well you guys seriously are not understanding what majority of the people in this thread are saying

we do not care what the question was asking
the content they wanted is fine
we did not memorize essays
even if we did that would not have been the problem
its not about WHAT the question was asking for its about HOW it was asked.

:mad1:

it required a brain and adaptability. that's all.

 

[mesbaz]

it required a brain and adaptability. that's all.

maybe youd like to convince the other 1000+ people who had a problem with it. tell them how you and a few others on this site feel that they have more ' brain ' and adaptability than them. im sure they'd like to know about it, and im sure they have a more ' intelligent' response than my self. i mean you of course have more ' brain ' than me and all of them right .

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im sick of repeating myself to the ignorant people on this site who have their heads so far up their arses that they feel the need to repeat over and over again about how lovely the question was and how they had enough intelligence to answer it, although the question itself didnt make sense, and although teachers who have been teaching the course from all over the state make the same acknowledgement.

i wonder whos more on the right path, a teacher whos been teaching for over a decade or a student who studied the course for two years and feels the need to constantly remind themselves and others of how well they went. personally when im proud of something, i dont feel the need to flaunt it.

just a thought.

 

[possessionless]

seriously.
why do you keep coming here.
this doesn't even concern you.
you've come here like 3 times to tell people to either get over it or go on about how easy it was. don't you have anything better to do...

because you retards have a sad life. whinging about an sor1 exam. oh boo hoo. guess what? bos doesnt care so you can keep whinging all you like nothings going to happen.

i didnt like the maths exam yesterday, i fucked it up big time. im over it.
but you know my lifes not that sad to be still dwelling on an exam i did yesterday let alone 6 days ago.
and dont you dare tell me this doesnt concern me. i did this exam thus i have a right to voice my opinion.

 

[mesbaz]

because you retards have a sad life. whinging about an sor1 exam. oh boo hoo. guess what? bos doesnt care so you can keep whinging all you like nothings going to happen.

i didnt like the maths exam yesterday, i fucked it up big time. im over it.
but you know my lifes not that sad to be still dwelling on an exam i did yesterday let alone 6 days ago.
and dont you dare tell me this doesnt concern me. i did this exam thus i have a right to voice my opinion.

yes that exam was 6 days ago. but this exam could very well affect the next 6 years of my life. not everyone wants an average uai just so that they can get into uni. some people have high aspirations, and when one of 10 units fucks up that bad it jeopardizes those chances. id rather get it right now, then transfer 50 times in uni trying to get into the course i want. i think its much smarter to deal with a problem at hand then look back and kick yourself for letting it go.

bos didn't even care in the beginning. but the more complaints they've gotten and the more people that have raised concerns, they more they're beginning to acknowledge it. they now want the names of the schools who delayed the exams rather than before when they were saying no one had a problem. they're now replying to emails of concerns when a week ago they ignored most emails. it shows that if you take the initiative you can make a change. id love to see you in the real world. " oh fuck. i fucked up that exam. ahh stuff it. i dont need uni. ill go live of centrelink. who cares about a bloody exam. im over it. im gonna go live life " real smart good luck with that.

what is your opinion ? that you think you did good. you think the exam was fine. and that you think everyone that didn't understand the question should get over it.

wonderful. im happy for you. i love how insecure people just love to brag about themselves to make themselves feel better. its called psychology. go learn it.
but seriously, no one cares how you went, this thread isn't about people who liked it, it was to help people who didnt. and people like you who have their heads so far up their arses that they cant even acknowledge it when other people have problems and are too self absorbed to care, aren't doing anyone any favours.

 

[possessionless]

yes that exam was 6 days ago. but this exam could very well affect the next 6 years of my life. not everyone wants an average uai just so that they can get into uni. some people have high aspirations, and when one of 10 units fucks up that bad it jeopardizes those chances. id rather get it right now, then transfer 50 times in uni trying to get into the course i want. i think its much smarter to deal with a problem at hand then look back and kick yourself for letting it go.

bos didn't even care in the beginning. but the more complaints they've gotten and the more people that have raised concerns, they more they're beginning to acknowledge it. they now want the names of the schools who delayed the exams rather than before when they were saying no one had a problem. they're now replying to emails of concerns when a week ago they ignored most emails. it shows that if you take the initiative you can make a change. id love to see you in the real world. " oh fuck. i fucked up that exam. ahh stuff it. i dont need uni. ill go live of centrelink. who cares about a bloody exam. im over it. im gonna go live life " real smart good luck with that.

what is your opinion ? that you think you did good. you think the exam was fine. and that you think everyone that didn't understand the question should get over it.

wonderful. im happy for you. i love how insecure people just love to brag about themselves to make themselves feel better. its called psychology. go learn it.
but seriously, no one cares how you went, this thread isn't about people who liked it, it was to help people who didnt. and people like you who have their heads so far up their arses that they cant even acknowledge it when other people have problems and are too self absorbed to care, aren't doing anyone any favours.

there is no need for you to be so rude.
i do want to go to uni so dont go making assumptions. and i am strongly against living off centrelink.
i just figure there is no point on dwelling on something because i know if i do it upsets me to the point where my other exams will end up suffering. so i just move on.

 

[mesbaz]

there is no need for you to be so rude.
i do want to go to uni so dont go making assumptions. and i am strongly against living off centrelink.
i just figure there is no point on dwelling on something because i know if i do it upsets me to the point where my other exams will end up suffering. so i just move on.

i treat people the way they treat others. sometimes you need a taste of your own medicine to open your eyes. most people who came here had genuine concerns, myself especially. when people like you just come in out of no where and start calling them " wingers " who need to " get a life " and " get over it " and think they're " retards " you're kind of asking for it.

its great that you dont dwell on things, but everyone functions differently and for some people as ive already said, this has had a significant impact. i don't know about others, but i wasnt ' dwelling' i had finished ' dwelling ' maybe by that saturday ( and yes it took me more than a day to get over it ) but im not going to stop trying to fix something which i feel needs fixing. if you want something in life you have to go get it, you cant just get over it and hope that it comes to you. thats what my centrelink analogy was referred to. and you especially cant just let something go when you feel that you were in the right. when there are so many people raising concerns, clearly something is seriously wrong yes ? this rarely happens with hsc exams so there must be a reason that its happening. it may give you temporarily give you relief now and not affect your other exams and thats good. but if you let it go completely, you might be in for a shock when you get your uai and realize how bad religion was for you. if it was your 10 units, then its not going to give you temporary relief and youre going to wish something was done about it. thus why i am acting now with others to voice our opinions as a group which is the only way you can be heard. if no one had raised concerns that night, even scaling wouldn't have happened, and bos wouldn't be half as nice when marking as they are going to be now. so group efforts do make a difference.

sometimes it nice to show some sympathy just for the sake of being a nice person, even if you cant empathize with it. i hope in real life when someone comes to you with a problem you don't just tell them to ' get over it ' because they are a 'retard.' and if you don't do it in real life you shouldn't do it on the internet because it has real people with real concerns, so really its no different.

treat others the way you want to be treated. if you hadn't come in here talking so big, i wouldn't have felt the need to lash out at you.

 

[Skaps]

i wonder whos more on the right path, a teacher whos been teaching for over a decade or a student who studied the course for two years and feels the need to constantly remind themselves and others of how well they went. personally when im proud of something, i dont feel the need to flaunt it.

just a thought.

Thumbs up from me. Whilst I personally had no issue with the exam question I support your view that it was worded confusingly and, as such, I support the right of those who had an issue with it to complain about it.

For those of you who, like me, had no issue with the question congratulations. You, like me, were just lucky. No need to continuously put those down who weren't as lucky.

I'm sure half of them will end up with a higher ATAR anyway (in some cases significantly higher) so let them discuss their issues and be happy that you had a studies of religion exam that was structured in a format that you liked. Now go study.

Good luck to everyone with the resy of their exams and I hope that those who had an issue with the wording of the questions in section three aren't significantly disadvantaged as a result.

P.S. for those who keep raising the same arguments, don't enter a thread unless you have read the preceding comments for the result is just a repeat of what has come before.

 

[mesbaz]

Thumbs up from me. Whilst I personally had no issue with the exam question I support your view that it was worded confusingly and, as such, I support the right of those who had an issue with it to complain about it.

For those of you who, like me, had no issue with the question congratulations. You, like me, were just lucky. No need to continuously put those down who weren't as lucky.

I'm sure half of them will end up with a higher ATAR anyway (in some cases significantly higher) so let them discuss their issues and be happy that you had a studies of religion exam that was structured in a format that you liked. Now go study.

Good luck to everyone with the resy of their exams and I hope that those who had an issue with the wording of the questions in section three aren't significantly disadvantaged as a result.

P.S. for those who keep raising the same arguments, don't enter a thread unless you have read the preceding comments for the result is just a repeat of what has come before.

thanks. its refreshing to finally see a considerate person here

 

[Skaps]

thanks. its refreshing to finally see a considerate person here

To Mesbaz: No worries. What I also suprises me is that those who are telling people to stop complaining fail to realise that if the question is marked more leniently as a result, that their own marks will be scaled up accordingly. So the more people complain about the issues they had with the paper, the more they benefit from it. Maybe its just me, but I have no issue with something that in the long run can only benefit me.

Whilst this may seem like an unethical argument, for realistically we should support those complaining out of empathy rather than self interest, (and i can assure you that on my part it is out of empathy) some of the people urging their peers to stop complaining seem to be self absorbed and selfish.

To everyone: Read what I have written above, and if you do not care about how others went, then there is still no reason to tell them to stop complaining, for their complaints can only increase your marks.

 

[mesbaz]

To Mesbaz: No worries. What I also suprises me is that those who are telling people to stop complaining fail to realise that if the question is marked more leniently as a result, that their own marks will be scaled up accordingly. So the more people complain about the issues they had with the paper, the more they benefit from it. Maybe its just me, but I have no issue with something that in the long run can only benefit me.

Whilst this may seem like an unethical argument, for realistically we should support those complaining out of empathy rather than self interest, (and i can assure you that on my part it is out of empathy) some of the people urging their peers to stop complaining seem to be self absorbed and selfish.

To everyone: Read what I have written above, and if you do not care about how others went, then there is still no reason to tell them to stop complaining, for their complaints can only increase your marks.

Wow you write very well. hahaha. & yes my thoughts exactly. I mean i just don't see the point or even understand for that matter why people just come and say get over it and stop complaining. Like, why come into a thread where people are going to complain if you don't want to hear it ? Just kinda defeats the whole purpose you know...

And yeah, im nothing near that harsh in real life, but i really dislike it when people put others down for their own benefit. Its just so mean. Like theres no other word for it lol.

But yeah, i feel that the board should get more complains. I mean i know they sound like a ' center ' and an ' organisation ' with rules/procedures/structure etc. But in reality, its composed of real people, with real feelings * shock horror* who will realize the impact of this. and this will only help the years to come, because the board will think twice before being so inconsiderate and careless. From the way i see it, nothing bad can come out of this. Those who coped well will do better, and those who were disadvantaged will be compensated, further more, the next years to come will benefit from this. its win win win. And the board will realize it doesn't have unanimous power over the state. :mad1:

And for 14 000 students who have worked so hard all year to achieve a good mark. i feel that this was just a slap in the face. maybe not for all, but perhaps most. Its unfair, and unethical for the board to ignore it.

Personally, i thought this thread would be much more effective than what it turned out to be lol. i think most people are just going to avoid commenting and expressing their thoughts now to prevent getting into an argument.

All in all though, you seem like a really nice person. Kudos to you ( hahaha, have never said that in my life ' kudos, ' seems to fit in there though

 

[possessionless]

i treat people the way they treat others. sometimes you need a taste of your own medicine to open your eyes. most people who came here had genuine concerns, myself especially. when people like you just come in out of no where and start calling them " wingers " who need to " get a life " and " get over it " and think they're " retards " you're kind of asking for it.

its great that you dont dwell on things, but everyone functions differently and for some people as ive already said, this has had a significant impact. i don't know about others, but i wasnt ' dwelling' i had finished ' dwelling ' maybe by that saturday ( and yes it took me more than a day to get over it ) but im not going to stop trying to fix something which i feel needs fixing. if you want something in life you have to go get it, you cant just get over it and hope that it comes to you. thats what my centrelink analogy was referred to. and you especially cant just let something go when you feel that you were in the right. when there are so many people raising concerns, clearly something is seriously wrong yes ? this rarely happens with hsc exams so there must be a reason that its happening. it may give you temporarily give you relief now and not affect your other exams and thats good. but if you let it go completely, you might be in for a shock when you get your uai and realize how bad religion was for you. if it was your 10 units, then its not going to give you temporary relief and youre going to wish something was done about it. thus why i am acting now with others to voice our opinions as a group which is the only way you can be heard. if no one had raised concerns that night, even scaling wouldn't have happened, and bos wouldn't be half as nice when marking as they are going to be now. so group efforts do make a difference.

sometimes it nice to show some sympathy just for the sake of being a nice person, even if you cant empathize with it. i hope in real life when someone comes to you with a problem you don't just tell them to ' get over it ' because they are a 'retard.' and if you don't do it in real life you shouldn't do it on the internet because it has real people with real concerns, so really its no different.

treat others the way you want to be treated. if you hadn't come in here talking so big, i wouldn't have felt the need to lash out at you.

if you had any idea what i plan on doing for the rest of my life then you'd realise that i am the type of person that does empathise with people but i just think that is being over exagerated. anyway im not going to argue with you because obviously we have very different views.
and i did actually say if you read it that the only reason i found this exam easy was because
1. i generally find sor1 easy
2. because what i studied did actually lend to the question. like i said i did saturday/sunday worship and that worked perfectly with the luke quote provided but i can see why people who did baptism or marriage or such would have found it difficult to work around.

other people also share the same views as me. is there a reason that you have chosen to go off at me rather than others in this thread (other than zazzy) who have the same opinions?

 

[mesbaz]

if you had any idea what i plan on doing for the rest of my life then you'd realise that i am the type of person that does empathise with people but i just think that is being over exagerated. anyway im not going to argue with you because obviously we have very different views.
and i did actually say if you read it that the only reason i found this exam easy was because
1. i generally find sor1 easy
2. because what i studied did actually lend to the question. like i said i did saturday/sunday worship and that worked perfectly with the luke quote provided but i can see why people who did baptism or marriage or such would have found it difficult to work around.

other people also share the same views as me. is there a reason that you have chosen to go off at me rather than others in this thread (other than zazzy) who have the same opinions?

well if you're a good person in real life, then thats great and i congratulate you for that ( no sarcasm, all seriousness) but just from reading some posts on this thread, that just wasnt the vibe i was getting, and since i didnt know you, i made an assumption based on that. i apologize if i was wrong, however, it felt necessary at the time.

its good you found it easy. you were one of those ' lucky ones ' but you have to understand there were others that didnt and are very disappointed as a result of that. i had no idea about what questions you did, all the posts you've put here have simply just told people to get over it because they're wingers and or retards so i can only comment from them.

there were others that shared the same view as you. i dont mind those who felt the exam was okay, they have a right to express that, however, i do dislike those who tell off other people for not finding the exam okay, because i feel thats uncalled for. in the start there was someone called " icola" doing that and i ' went off at her ' so to speak. i didnt come back on the thread for a while because i had exams, and it seemed as though other people were expressing their views against those they didnt like. i came back last night and saw you and zazzy. zazzy i just dislike because she always causes fights in these forums and trolls. the ones that i felt were being inconsiderate i repled to. in between i also ' went off at ' cahblue for being inconsiderate, but we sorted that out. there was someone called ' elias. p ' that i also ' told off ' basically i commented back to anyone here when i was on and felt they were being mean. most of my comments were given as a whole, i usually started with " to those who felt .... " or " for everyone that said...." because i didnt want to reply to each individual comment, would just cause more arguments. since me and you have been speaking though i did also comment back to bored of s.c and monsters, but since you replied back and those didnt ive been replying back to you. i wasnt simply attacking you for no reason.

^ very boring paragraph, but my justification to your question if youre interested ( again no sarcasm intended)

 

[feliciaaardvark]

you know what is really pissing me off?
the fact that some schools got a whole hour after reading time to 'cool down' and ask questions regarding section III.

a whole hour? our school had nothing. noone put up their hand to complain, no one even sighed. we just got on with it. and mind you, we weren't prepared for the question either. everyone was venting AFTER the exam, but we dared not waste our breath or energy during the actual paper. and, fyi, i go to an all girl school. we get pretty dramatic sometimes, but we know how to hold our panic attacks for the right time.

my point is, if my school had freaked out and made a massive deal out of it, would we have gotten an hour 'break' as well? are we not being disadvantaged for staying calm and sensible?

so unfair. i could have planned three responses in twenty minutes, let alone an hour.

and to those who are stressing over the question like i was--honestly, it's not as bad as it seems. it was part of the year 11 syllabus. and i admit that it was unfair that they had changed it without warning, and that it would have been nice to know that year 11 content would need to be revised, but we DID learn it. and everyone's in the same boat--we all went through the 'living religion' theme in year 11, we all didn't revise it for the HSC exam, and we all prepared for a practice/religious figure/practice long response. it took us ALL by surprise. and there is only a very microscopic few who would have seen the question, and been completely confident in answering it.

so relax, because noone's disadvantaged here. we're all in the same boat.

except for those drama queens who had a seizure at the sight of section 3 and demanded an hour long break. they're in a bloody five star ship packed with floaties and life savers.

if your school was one of them, please, free feel to explain to me why on earth you would need an hour's calming down, when my entire grade was able to stay in control, and get on with the exam without question or complaint. the exam room is no place for whinging or objections. expecially when the whole of australia (excl qld) is in the exact same conditions.

completely stuffed up the strict (and fair) system that has been set up by the BOS to ensure uniform exam conditions. completely. stuffed. it. up.

unnecessary, unsportmanlike, and unfair.

 

[possessionless]

which schools was it that actually stopped the exam?

 

[feliciaaardvark]

which schools was it that actually stopped the exam?

no idea. but it was in the paper. a number of schools, apparently, had breaks, while one had a whole hour.