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apollo1

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im havin a go at largarithmic's question but here's another one in the mean time:

show that the polynomial:



where cannot have a repeated real root.
 

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I go to sydney grammar

im havin a go at largarithmic's question but here's another one in the mean time:

show that the polynomial:



where cannot have a repeated real root.
Suppose it had a repeated root . Then taking the derivative, the following two are true:




Note eqn (1) implies is nonzero. From that we can divide by in (2) to obtain:




Now the problem with this is that if , then which clearly contradicts the first equation. So it mustn't have had a repeated root in the first place. (messy question)

Here's a hard integration. Prove:

 

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holy shit. i no whos gonna come first in the state for 4U this year. how about 3U wat did u get for that?
highly doubt ill come first, the grammar paper was really nice on me in particular and the markers were nice with some random oddities. got 83/84 for 3u
 

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highly doubt ill come first, the grammar paper was really nice on me in particular and the markers were nice with some random oddities. got 83/84 for 3u
m8 im willing to bet my life savings that you will come first.
 

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m8 im willing to bet my life savings that you will come first.
pretty poor bet lol. try horses instead. thanks for the encouragement though

Trebla said:
Make the substitution x = tan u and then use the properties of definite integrals. I'll let someone else do it in full...
yeah thats right, its a bit of a joke problem in a way coz its a bit unmotivatable after you do the trig sub (the usual neat solutions teachers have for it are just like, try this, magic it works). once youve done the trig sub you can do some other neat stuff though that is a bit more motivatable I think like use auxiliary angles but thats still hard

anyway time for a legitimate problem, but keep trying that polynomial thing. try this circle geo its neat

ABC is a triangle, and points D, E, F are chosen arbitrarily on each of sides BC, AC, AB. Let the circle through B,D,F meet the circle through C,D,E at G. Show the circle through A,E,F also goes through G
 

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What Trebla said and in addition Put cos theta + sin theta in the form R cos alpha and then using the symmtery property (ie. integral from 0 to a f(x) = integral from 0 to a f(a-x)) and then use log laws.

Btw, where did you get that question from?
 

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What Trebla said and in addition Put cos theta + sin theta in the form R cos alpha and then using the symmtery property (ie. integral from 0 to a f(x) = integral from 0 to a f(a-x)) and then use log laws.

Btw, where did you get that question from?
yeah that

um it was in my 4u textbook. sydney grammar has its own textbook/handout that it hands out for 4u, apparently all the commercially available ones are crappy. They used to do that for 3u as well, until it got turned into the cambridge 3u book (pender, sadler, shea, ward are all current/former grammar teachers)
 

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ABC is a triangle, and points D, E, F are chosen arbitrarily on each of sides BC, AC, AB. Let the circle through B,D,F meet the circle through C,D,E at G. Show the circle through A,E,F also goes through G
(1) (interior angle sum of triangle)
(2) (Angle sum at a point)
However since EGDC is a cyclic quad
(3)
Similiarly for BDGF
(4)

Subbing 3 and 4 into 2



but from (1)

therefore

ie. angle egf and angle cab are supplmentary

therefore AEGF is a cyclic quad therefore the circle through A E and F must pass through G.

XD
 

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What is it called ?
"Sydney Grammar School, Mathematics Department, Extension 2 Exercises, 2011, Book One/Two". It's not even a real textbook, its a cheaply printed volume of notes and exercises with a light blue/light green (for book1/book2) cardboard cover.

And I think grammar thought the other textbooks were not challenging enough and didnt teach some of the topics in the way grammar wants to teach them. I dunn othough since Ive never used one


(1) (interior angle sum of triangle)
(2) (Angle sum at a point)
However since EGDC is a cyclic quad
(3)
Similiarly for BDGF
(4)

Subbing 3 and 4 into 2



but from (1)

therefore

ie. angle egf and angle cab are supplmentary

therefore AEGF is a cyclic quad therefore the circle through A E and F must pass through G.

XD
Thats right ^^ its a pretty neat result too, it's called "pivot theorem".

Anyway try this really nice probability question.

Alice and Bob take turns flipping a coin. Alice flips the coin N+1 times, and Bob flips it N times, where N is a positive integer. Alice 'wins' if she gets strictly more heads than Bob does. (e.g. if N=5 and Alice gets 4 heads 2 tails, while Bob gets 3 heads 2 tails, Alice wins; whereas if Bob got 4 heads 1 tail, she doesnt; and if he got all heads, he doesn't). Find the probability that Alice wins (in terms of N if necessary).
 
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:( circle geo and now probability, how do you know my weaknesses......i vote hax!
 

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