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Re: Rudd was not a mistake - let's compare him to Tony Abbot. :P i was talking about the very moment i say the name tony abbott in context of this discussion its suddenly not relevent, when he could well be the next liberal PM* - surely that is relevent to john howard of the liberal party...

Re: Rudd was not a mistake - let's compare him to Tony Abbot. :P thats an excuse to avoid abbott's fails. you could be discussing present issues but you're making up hypothetical threads - well lucky i was here to argue against, it was fun.

people seem to ignore the fact that there are real issues happening right now... but noooooooo we have to discuss a dead politician... its like the word 'tony abbott' is banned in this thread... i knew you howard-supporters didnt like him - but jeez i didnt know you hated him that much. your...

Rudd was not a mistake - let's compare him to Tony Abbot. :P im sorry, i didnt realise john howard was still in office and leader of the opposition liberal party.... that would make your comment totally relevent - wait! he isnt! he was voted out in 2007 and he isnt coming back to politics...

i dont really care about your favoured... at the end of the day it is either liberal or labor. its pretty pathetic voting for someone you hate less. the liberals opposed the stimulus, so i dont think they would have done anything - its in their nature to do nothing.

my point was aparrently off-topic because it was not about howard, therefore your response is also. funny how no one seems to care about present issues, or the alternate PM to Rudd - yet they waste their time lingering in the past. i dont need any understanding of anything to put forward...

thats your (and the liberal party's) answer to everything: do NOTHING

since you are "off-topic" ie. not talking about howard, how long do you believe tony abbott will last?

Abbott is relevent. The is a political discussion on the 2007 election and its aftermarth (including what people think should have happened reflecting today) I am reflecting today in saying that howard's departure weakened the liberal party. I am making a point that Howard must have been a...

if the current labor party are in office long enough we will see whether their economic management works for the next crisis. you cant say that it is true that howard is a better economic manager than rudd because howard was in office for longer than rudd atm. the only way for your point to be...

[B] HAHAHA looks like scuba steve has finally cracked - you cant respond to someone who shares similar view points of mine in this argument who is well-informed on the issue. shall you take out the white flag, eh? :P

Lentern seems to be making some points that others are failing to answer properly, all i see is ppl dismissing his well-informed comments. keep going Lentern.

whats the point in saving and managing money that you dont plan to spend? you say they didnt need to - what bs.

im finding it hard to fathom what you want from me. if you want me to say 'k i agree with you'... give up now because we share very different views. we both have responded with questions, thats why this thread has reached 40 pages. and i think we both are not satisfied with eachother's...

1. im aware that money can be regarded as everything to govts, but it is much more than that. its how the money is used. not saved, not managed - those are other issues out of topic. the labor party arent afraid to USE money. show me where the liberal party has acted to achieve results by using...

you are very wise. i hope everyone listens to these words of wisdom.

this is perhaps the most succinct, correct comment i have ever encountered on bored of studies. I take my figurative hat off to you.

there are different ways of 'playing with' and using money (or not using it). money is an important factor considered and dealt with by govts, but its not the only thing they should be good at. thats my point. say what you will, but it wont change the fact that all i have heard of the...

you have revealed your only interest in liberal govt - money. and you're not alone, im sure many other people share that view. but many would agree with me that there is much more for a govt to do then play around with money all day, and that is the difference. if you want to respond and...

stop neglecting my questions and responding with further questions. i asked SPECIFICALLY what other areas do liberal succeed in despite economics. if you cant answer that then i can only conclude that liberal are ONLY good at managing finance.