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then at least i would fit in. :P

i have committed? your not talking to the labor party, fool. economic management is important but what are the libs other strengths? are you saying all the libs have to offer are lawyers and economists?

Health Abbott is the liberal leader - what he puts to the table is the alternative. There is no govt discussion for privatising anything - give up on that. Again its obvious you are not so keen on your own leader. sad. Education the states played a role in satisfying the 'laptop for every...

My point is this - why are you not willing to discuss tony abbott? it wont kill you, it is relevant to the debate as he is the current leader - which is what people should be debating about - not about a dead politician. obviously you dont have many positives things to say about abbott which is...

they are opinionated. it is an interpretation - not a factual account. i can either agree or disagree. i have disagreed many times and agreed other times, and given reasons. if its not good enough for you thats your problem.

ATARs in the 80s are decent

ok you make some good points, but i cant help but see contradictions. @ EDUCATION - do you have proof that the work you speak of is a result of Howard's legislation. if your in a state that is labor it could have been the result of state government funding - as i remind you all the system is...

its not who your supporting, im looking at responses to criticism - both sides.

respond to this. I dare you.

obviously you have issues - you cant discuss /debate anything without going too far.... your no better than the people in the Internet Filter thread who starting discussing good porn sites, and when i criticised their position - all they can do is mouth off... it goes to show those who have...

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its ALL TRIVIAL - but as i have said before, i seem to touching a nerve when i suggest that your queen Howard isnt perfect.

i appear to support part, and part of that (not specifting what 'that' is) and im not saying any more on my split agreement - im not obliged to justify my own opinion. neither are you. but if you state an eliged fact, then you need to provide proofs.

it can be INTERPRETED that Howard held Australia back in the areas of health and education, by not moving in any direction. in a sense he just sat on the fence and looking towards "privatising" the health system as previously mentioned. by this was not completed in the time of over a decade in...

that isnt accepted as a justification in the real world. if u were asked by a court of law to explain why my statements are false you would need evidence, not opinions. i respect your right to an opinion, but thats all it really is.

i consider that an invalid comment. you can either 1. come up with another one, or 2. SPECIFY what your opinion is and it conflicts with comments i have presented. your choice. but number 1 is a popular choice for you libs.

i dont think that would be as lengthy as this argument ie. we would come to the conclusion straight away :D

1. im not ignoring the points - im putting them into context of my answer, if you have a specific question by all means ask - but generic questions give me space to answer in my own structure. 2. im making a general statement. of course im not always going to agree with everyone - that does not...

THANKYOU!!!! i agree with you to an extent here. Good on you for posting this side of the argument that has been well neglected by others. just because he was reelected doesnt mean he was so great. perhaps in comparison to the current labor leaders before mr. rudd he was preferable to a...

I reply - stop stallling and do it, then you can make judgements based on whats happened... i dont remember half of what was said previously.. most of it was argument babble. of course it is out of context - thats why i said retype it (in context) and i can reply to it (in context)... Try all...