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So there is no way for anyone to prove that there is a God? Well this now means that anyone believing in God is doing so without valid grounds.

This thread is not about giving an empty statement about what you believe. It is about WHY you believe something. All you have said, over and over, is that you believe there is a God. You have not given ANY reasons why God exists. I'm sorry but you are mistaken. From Dictionary.com...

Ah, but I am not claiming it is false. I am saying there are no grounds for believing it.

Look, the way you prove things on this planet is through reason and logic. If, as you say, human science (which I will change to "logic and reason") cannot prove this question to be right or wrong, why would you believe it? How many times do I have to say this - belief without evidence or...

Well, I think it is fairly obvious to say that it is not wrong to question the validity of something that has no valid reasons or evidence If John Howard publically announced that every muslim in the country was part of a conspiracy to kill the caucasian race, and that we therefore must...

I am not arguing as to whether you believe something or not. I am saying that you have no reasons for the validity of your belief. Like I keep saying, if I said that I was abducted by aliens last night, would you simply believe it? NO! You'd ask for some proof or evidence. What do I...

We don't give a shit about your "belief" per se. I mentioned at the very beginning, "please give REASONS, don't just say 'I believe this' etc." You can't go around proclaiming some belief without any reasons or evidence and expect people to understand why you believe it, and moreover, why it...

Translation: I concede that I cannot show why God exists, so I'll call you names.

1. What is the title of this thread? I believe it is "Does God exist," not "what is the purpose of life." 2. If you do not believe reason and logic can prove that God exists, then I am satisfied. Reason and logic is how we show things on Earth, didn't you know that? I'd be interested to know...

Well now that you mention it the belief in God is certainly more powerful than I ever knew... it has made you unequivocally accept the existence of God without any evidence! To overpower a human beings common sense and reason like that is certainly powerful.

There is no complication here. You cannot prove the existence of God, yet you believe in it. What more is there? The knowledge that you cannot understand something proves that there is a supernatural being that solves your mysteries? Logic has no foundations? How do you know anything? How do...

1. The best possible solution does NOT prove that it is the solution 2. Moreover it seems highly fanciful that it is the best possible solution!

If you don't want to take part in the argument, and keep saying "you can't prove either way so STOP discussing it," then don't bother reading the thread ok? There are some people who want to discuss this, philosophically, logically, and believe there is value in discussing and interchanging ideas.

To say God is above human reason, therefore he exists, is potentially the most invalid, absurd argument posed so far. That's like me saying, "well the flying goat-god Gorgamel who likes throwing lightening bolts at Greens party members, is ABOVE human reasoning, so he must exist."

Wow... someone actually posted a reason, or at least the closest thing to a reason on this thread. Actually the point sounds like a fearful appeal to ignorance really - "we don't know what caused it, so it must be God!", but anyway, here is something that addresses that point: "There's no...

Um, there are a considerable number of people who are AGNOSTIC.

I already replied to that! --- Appeal to ignorance... we don't know... so it must be God! Why do people need to have their life's meaning and purpose given to them on a silver platter... they seem so afraid of not having meaning when we can create our own meaning. What is wrong with defining...

Appeal to ignorance... we don't know... so it must be God! Why do people need to have their life's meaning and purpose given to them on a silver platter... they seem so afraid of not having meaning when we can create our own meaning. What is wrong with defining our own lives? Do we really need...

I know! Like writing that whole Bible thing, man...

dudes... this is continuing in other thread, for those interested http://www.boredofstudies.org/community/showthread.php?p=970134