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[Riproot]

Interview preparation will make you do better than if you did not have any preparation regardless if you make it or not. This means that interview preparation does help the student but it's up to the student as to what benefit they can achieve. "If you are meant to get through and you are yourself you'll get through.", just a sad excuse for lack of preparation and/or motivation to get into medicine. Most people who sit interviews for medicine will have no problems being a doctor. 2/3 rejected because they rank poorly doesn't mean they aren't capable of being doctors.

Look, stop trying to sell your fucking prep ffs.
Most people in my med cohort didn't do interview prep
Fak

 

[superSAIyan2]

Section 2 percentiles were changed.

 

[Kiraken]

Interview preparation will make you do better than if you did not have any preparation regardless if you make it or not. This means that interview preparation does help the student but it's up to the student as to what benefit they can achieve. "If you are meant to get through and you are yourself you'll get through.", just a sad excuse for lack of preparation and/or motivation to get into medicine. Most people who sit interviews for medicine will have no problems being a doctor. 2/3 rejected because they rank poorly doesn't mean they aren't capable of being doctors.

It is not a sad excuse. Most people in my cohort did not get interview prep. As I said earlier, prep works for some peole and others don't need it. Its misleading to suggest it is necessary for everyone in boosting their chances and you're beginning to sound like you're desperate to plug your own services for financial gain rather than giving the students here any real honest advice

 

[Medman]

Look, stop trying to sell your fucking prep ffs.
Most people in my med cohort didn't do interview prep
Fak

I'm sure you talked to "most" people in your grade and I'm sure they would divulge such information to you. Since I heard from people in your grade you have "many" friends. Go read what the resident wrote.

 

[Medman]

It is not a sad excuse. Most people in my cohort did not get interview prep. As I said earlier, prep works for some peole and others don't need it. Its misleading to suggest it is necessary for everyone in boosting their chances and you're beginning to sound like you're desperate to plug your own services for financial gain rather than giving the students here any real honest advice

Go read what the resident posted. I've been saying the same thing too all you juniors and no one seems to think I'm being honest which is completely fine. I will help all my students who decide to take my advice and help them get into medicine.

 

[enoilgam]

Those interviews they employ are designed to suss out the fakes and those who have been coached. Granted, they dont always work, but a strongly designed interview process along with trained interviewers (i.e. like those used in Med interviews) should be able to spot those who have been prepped and those who havent on most occasions. These people arent stupid and these interviews arent informal rubbish like they would use to higher an unskilled worker.

To be honest though, an interview isnt something you can prepare for like a Maths exam or whatever. There are some obvious things you should/shouldnt do, but mostly it's common sense I think.

 

[Medman]

Common sense for a Year 12 student who most likely don't have an extensive professional life. It's easy to say that once you've aged but for a student, they'll be making mistakes all day.

They test the four principles of ethics. Do you know what they are?

They look for depth in answers with touches of medical system knowledge to further enhance your answer. Do you think a Year 12 student can form such an answer without any training?

I can guarantee you, comparing students prior to them undergoing training and after they've undergone training. You will see a significant difference in their answers. This doesn't mean they will make it into medicine but there will always be an improvement with the right guidance. That is all I'm saying. Whether this gets you over the line who knows?

 

[enoilgam]

Common sense for a Year 12 student who most likely don't have an extensive professional life. It's easy to say that once you've aged but for a student, they'll be making mistakes all day. You really don't think you can prep for a medical interview? They test the four principles of ethics. Do you know what they are? They look for depth in answers with touches of medical system knowledge to further enhance your answer. Do you think a Year 12 student can form such an answer without any training?

That's interesting, so tell me, how do people make it in with no prep?

 

[Medman]

That's interesting, so tell me, how do people make it in with no prep?

Training doesn't mean you'll get in. Training only improves your answers. This in addition with other factors (communication skills, etiquette, the way you act, dress, marks etc.) will influence whether you get in or not.

I've talked to interviewers. I've had personal coaching from specialists. I've trained quite a number of students. I have experience.

 

[enoilgam]

Training doesn't mean you'll get in. Training only improves your answers. This in addition with other factors will influence whether you get in or not.

You didnt answer the question - if what you're saying is true, how would a person without prep get in? For someone who is offering advice to people in interviews, I hope you teach them to address the question...that is kind of a fundamental point you know.

 

[Medman]

You didnt answer the question - if what you're saying is true, how would a person without prep get in? For someone who is offering advice to people in interviews, I hope you teach them to address the question...that is kind of a fundamental point you know.

Most students don't think preparation won't help or think it's too expensive or think they can do it themselves. So there is still a significant pool of students with non-preparation background, so statistically speaking they will get in. Also interview scores is not the only deciding factor.

Cut out your condescending attitude, you always explore all issues before reaching a conclusion for interview questions in medicine.

 

[Riproot]

I'm sure you talked to "most" people in your grade and I'm sure they would divulge such information to you. Since I heard from people in your grade you have "many" friends. Go read what the resident wrote.

i am friends with literally everyone in my grade
Literally

 

[Riproot]

Go read what the resident posted. I've been saying the same thing too all you juniors and no one seems to think I'm being honest which is completely fine. I will help all my students who decide to take my advice and help them get into medicine.

We're already in medicine though
We don't need your interview "advice"

Most students don't think preparation won't help or think it's too expensive or think they can do it themselves. So there is still a significant pool of students with non-preparation background, so statistically speaking they will get in. Also interview scores is not the only deciding factor.

Cut out your condescending attitude, you always explore all issues before reaching a conclusion for interview questions in medicine.

Scrambling~~~

 

[Medman]

i am friends with literally everyone in my grade
Literally

Sure. Making such a bold statement even though I know it's not true. I have asked my friend about you, shame she said she doesn't want to be your friend so not everyone is your friend "literally".

Hardly scrambling, didn't you say most of your friends didn't get interview training?

How about we agree to disagree. I will stop talking to you now.

P.S. Riproot you should be careful what you say to your elders in the field since you will never know when you will meet them in the future especially someone who knows who you are. Just general advice.

 

[sylent]

Medman you're advice is appreciated, not everyone on this forum is in medicine already .
No need to get nasty people.

 

[Medman]

Medman you're advice is appreciated, not everyone on this forum is in medicine already .
No need to get nasty people.

Cheers, appreciate your support. I really enjoy teaching and mentoring younger students and I want to give correct advice to students thinking of doing medicine as I myself was never given this opportunity. Being a final year medical student I believe I know more about the career path of medicine more so than first year students or people who do not even study medicine. From my experience with helping students with interviews, their answers do improve after sessions with me. I'm not the only person offering interview tutoring and I'm sure quite a few other people out there can do the same. I was just making a point that interview training will definitely improve your chances in the interview but there is still no guarantee you will make it into medicine. It's up to the student whether they think it is a worthwhile investment for them in their situation.

I hate it when people say you can't train for the interview (also UMAT), when I myself as well as my students have gone through the process and it has worked wonders.

 

[enoilgam]

Cut out your condescending attitude, you always explore all issues before reaching a conclusion for interview questions in medicine.

Cut out the personal attacks, I dont see what Riproot's friends have to do with this discussion. You're getting a negative reaction from people because you have taken a superior attitude towards them - that wont get you far on this site. Debate on these issues is a great thing I think, provided that it is done in a constructive manner.

Considering the company on BoS, there is no room for arrogance here.

 

[Medman]

Well I wonder who made the first move. I have no intention to attack anyone personally unless they want to attack me using derogatory language. Superior attitude, please. I'm giving people advice based on my many years of experience and I encounter people with less than 1 year's experience giving poor advice.

Obviously, people here don't seem to take my advice kindly and therefore, I will most likely stop in the near future. The funny thing is, the Resident (PGY2) meaning he is a junior resident posted exactly what I have said in many of my posts earlier regarding interviews, research & training in medicine, lifestyle etc. We're obviously both wrong even though we are more senior than everyone here.

 

[enoilgam]

Well I wonder who made the first move. I have no intention to attack anyone personally unless they want to attack me using derogatory language. Superior attitude, please. I'm giving people advice based on my many years of experience and I encounter people with less than 1 year's experience giving poor advice. Obviously, people here don't seem to take my advice kindly and therefore, I will most likely stop in the near future.

You cant see the contradiction in this sentence?

Also, you jumped to a personal attack after Riproot questioned the motives behind your opinion. Riproot's point was valid, countering with "you have no friends" wasnt, nor was it relevant to this discussion.

Again, the problem isnt your opinion, it's the way you are presenting it. I partially disagree with what you are saying, but I do think you offer an interesting opinion and it does have merit. The way you are presenting that opinion though leaves much to be desired.

 

[Riproot]

Sure. Making such a bold statement even though I know it's not true. I have asked my friend about you, shame she said she doesn't want to be your friend so not everyone is your friend "literally".

Hardly scrambling, didn't you say most of your friends didn't get interview training?

How about we agree to disagree. I will stop talking to you now.

P.S. Riproot you should be careful what you say to your elders in the field since you will never know when you will meet them in the future especially someone who knows who you are. Just general advice.

lol, you're clearly joking.

And trying to play the "I'm older than you, have respect for me" card doesn't work when you are shamelessly promoting yourself in a way similar to a street walker.